Reading a 1-page review: 5 minutes

DL'ing a map, playing it, finding out it's shit: 25 minutes

Choice is yours dude.

Anyway, I agree with Stevie about the ratings system. Although I'm not worried about too low of scores, but too high of scores. Standards in the zombies community are waaaaay too low. Prison Mission has 10 stars on ZM, and it's literally the worst map I ever played. Universal democracy is wrong, some people just don't deserve an opinion. Too many noobs shotgunning out "BEST MAP EVAR" (it's the first map they've played...)

Nonetheless, we need a rating system because reviewers can't get 'em all. I'm currently working on a (glowing) Das Herrenhaus review, but that's just one of the many maps currently out, and I've already missed many I'd have liked to review. Just not enough time, especially since I'm working on a map of my own.

Would be nice if UGX tracked an individual's downloads, and that was part of the criteria... so like 100 posts, 30 maps DL'd

You're 'currently working' on a review? Damn, I didn't realise reviewers spent this long on them, anyway I digress.

A simple solution to the 'noobs can't be trusted' conundrum is like I said, any coloured ranked member can vote (from Famous Male Pornstars to Mapper Elites and everything in between) - I can't see how anyone would have opposition to that?

And the tracking downloads thing would be impossible since most maps are linked through Mega/Mediafire, etc and not through the site directly.

And I think people are still getting hung up on the name. I repeat 'First Mappers' or w/e it should be called is a EUPHEMISM, stop taking it literally. We all know it really means 'Shit Maps' but of course we can't have that as a section (sigh), it DOESN'T MATTER if it's your first or 100th map; if it's shit it goes there, if it's good it doesn't. End of.

You're 'currently working' on a review? Damn, I didn't realise reviewers spent this long on them, anyway I digress.

A simple solution to the 'noobs can't be trusted' conundrum is like I said, any coloured ranked member can vote (from Famous Male Pornstars to Mapper Elites and everything in between) - I can't see how anyone would have opposition to that?

And the tracking downloads thing would be impossible since most maps are linked through Mega/Mediafire, etc and not through the site directly.

And I think people are still getting hung up on the name. I repeat 'First Mappers' or w/e it should be called is a EUPHEMISM, stop taking it literally. We all know it really means 'Shit Maps' but of course we can't have that as a section (sigh), it DOESN'T MATTER if it's your first or 100th map; if it's shit it goes there, if it's good it doesn't. End of.

Rofl, by "working on" I mean started 30 min ago 

The problem with colored names is that donators are included, and literally anyone with $3 can become a donator. But I digress. You are right about DL tracking, I didn't think of that.

Anyhow, the pro's of ratings outweight the con's.

When they stop releasing crap..

I think you missed the point.

Oh, now i think i did miss the point. If they are purposely releasing maps that shouldn't be released then i agree with that.

The problem with colored names is that donators are included, and literally anyone with $3 can become a donator.

And anyone with a Primary school level grasp of the English language can become a Map Reviewer but you don't hear me complaining.

If someone wants to donate $3 to leave a 1 star rating on a map then fair play to them I say.

Besides, I'm probably a prime target for people like that, I can already picture plenty of people rating Oil Rig a 1 because they think I'm a cunt, but you know what? I'll happily accept that if it means we get a rating system in place.

Besides, I'm probably a prime target for people like that, I can already picture plenty of people rating Oil Rig a 1 because they think I'm a cunt, but you know what? I'll happily accept that if it means we get a rating system in place.

I'm not sure why people would hate you when all you do is speak the truth about things.

On topic, the perfect system would be map reviews have to apply for the position with more than just making a review, like maybe you need to review a variety of maps and if the reviews reflect how good the Map actually is, they get the status and can then rate maps. As you guys already said mappers and higher ranking members (excluding donators) can rate them. The only problem is  we already have a lot of reviewers and some donators would be able to accurately rate maps. Better than nothing I guess.


We do need a rating system regardless of how it happens.

IMO Stevie seems to have hit the nail on the head.

Can a moderator open a poll so that the community can vote for a ranking system and its rules? And if we hit "x" amount of votes can a system be implemented?

never added one before but I will try in a min when I hop back on shortly

never added one before but I will try in a min when I hop back on shortly

Added already

And if we hit "x" amount of votes can a system be implemented?

Also, its up to admins, if there will be one, so you need to wait for one of them to respond

I'd vote for a categorizing system, rather than rating or ranking/scoring. Similar to how reviewers rate maps now, but maybe slightly different, to avoid shaming maps, but still provide insight in the type of map... Maybe...

Box map **********
Custom content **********
Detail/Mapping **********
Map size **********

So these wouldn't give a score, but rather tell others how much of something they were... I'm sure there are others or a better way if wording it, but everyone could vote or add the info, without there being any malicious motive. Especially since we all value different things when it comes to maps.

I only became a map reviewer because I liked writing the reviews. Honestly, if anyone was to be the sole provider of the ranking system, it should be people with Community Mapper (and probably Scripter too) rank, who know what goes into a good map. Maybe reviewers too, not sure.

1. I disagree with 90% of the scores on the Reviews section, cause you get shit like "I only played it once and got bored so I give it 3/10 for replayability" and "There was a WaW stock gun so -3 points on custom content" other crap.

2. Reviewers don't bother putting the same effort of review into a shit map, so the reviews section is mostly maps with 30+/40 score. A ranking/voting system would be waaaaay better.

3. Reviewers usually don't bother making reviews for maps that already have 1 review. So you're left with 1 person's opinion to rank a map.

4. Anyone can become a reviewer by having an opinion. Mappers need to have skill and creativity.

5. Review system is shit, we just have to conform to it because Trem says so. I would SO MUCH prefer it if reviewers could use something like grades A/B/C/D/F without the 4 categories (which aren't even that good). For example "[B+] NDU Reimagined" or "[C-] Malibu Drive" or "[F] CubeBoxMcFlaps v4.3".

I actually add rating systems on my Custom maps Idea (If people even read them)
(IE:5-4-3-2-1)

CubeBoxMcFlaps v4.3

DL link?

1. I disagree with 90% of the scores on the Reviews section, cause you get shit like "I only played it once and got bored so I give it 3/10 for replayability" and "There was a WaW stock gun so -3 points on custom content" other crap.

I have to heavily agree with this, and its also the reason why i have a problem with complete randoms dropping their"opinions and silly reviews" on mappers release topics

Origins for me, the first 10 times absolutely SUCKED - like absolute balls

maybe 18 hours in when we got a handle on it, it "became" fun. I would have thought "gamers" of all people coule comprehend the theories behind that

i mean how many times have we seen

"can you just enable the cheats"

"can you just remove the bosses they are too hard"

makes it completely pointless for us to add anything really, if they are just gonna cheat past it, or ask for its removal. If its hard, its hard for a reason, part of that reason is so you get a sense of accomplishment - making you want to do it "again" later, and faster, or more efficiently, with friends this time etc etc etc

the "reason" they end up getting bored is because they completely removed the "challenge", or if they cant just give up and slate the map as "too hard" - and by nature the human race is encouraged by something they cant just "immediately" do


im probably not explaining myself right, but im sure you guys catch my drift lol

The UGX Launcher will allow you to rate a map out of 10 stars, this feature has already been planned for more than a year.

If the mods can't distinguish between something that took 5 mins to make and something that has obviously had effort put into then I'm more than happy to fulfill that role, it doesn't take a genius to see that something like 'Box Sniper One Window NGT Challenge Cube' should go in the 'New Mapper' section and something like Herrenhaus or Leviathan should go in the proper map section - it's a disgrace they are even in the same forum subsection IMO (but then again what do I know?)

+1

The UGX Launcher will allow you to rate a map out of 10 stars, this feature has already been planned for more than a year.

Yes but I don't understand why we can't have it on the forums as well? Why is it only one or the other?