UNR34LxPyro, I know that every new mapper has a first map and that is fine, but this has been done a thousand times. One window and then nothing that could be even remotely called a feature. Your best and only strategy is to play this map with one hand while your other hand is doing something...well, much more satisfying. Please no more of these.

UNR34LxPyro, I know that every new mapper has a first map and that is fine, but this has been done a thousand times. One window and then nothing that could be even remotely called a feature. Your best and only strategy is to play this map with one hand while your other hand is doing something...well, much more satisfying. Please no more of these.

I agree with you but i have seen really bad first maps. (Like mine "RUN" ). Anyways UNR34LxPyro, keep on mapping if you use your skills and expand on em you will make good maps. Like have doors in you next map.

UNR34LxPyro, I know that every new mapper has a first map and that is fine, but this has been done a thousand times. One window and then nothing that could be even remotely called a feature. Your best and only strategy is to play this map with one hand while your other hand is doing something...well, much more satisfying. Please no more of these.

Dear Tomikaze,
...a map being your first map doesnt excuse it being shit. If you really want to deliver a good map (this goes out to every mapper might reading this btw) just get your shit together and make one. Id love to do bad things to everyone whos mindset is like: "oh a boxmap without custom guns... Well its his first map at least he tryed to give something to the community" and im just like : "yeah he took 2 minutes doning AWESOMENESS for the community FUCK YES PLAY HIS MAP GUYS" (tbh the community would be better off without that)

I wanted to bite my tongue on this one, but I have to get it off my chest.

This map is everything that is wrong with the custom community. There is literally hundreds of 'One Window' maps out there, and we simply do not need another one. I have barely any mapping experience and I have made two maps to date that took me less than a few hours that are better than this!

I hate criticizing mappers as a lot of them tend to take it the wrong way, but this type of work is simply lazy, or an attempt by mappers to get their work shown over on an NGT stream just so they can tell their friends.

It is not good enough, and it is not a map that will get played often, so what is the point? I apologies in advance for any offense taken by the mapper, but I just feel that the custom community is suffering due to these type of releases, and if a mapper is not willing to try and challenge themselves properly and release a map that is worthy, then no one will play them and it will all be for nothing.

ZM has too many of them and it is a chore trying to find a decent map on there nowadays will going through the thousands and thousands of box maps, one window maps and general trash. Does not help when they intentionally overrate their maps by giving them 8-10 stars only to find out is a trashy competition box map made in a day by one of their clique.

I wanted to bite my tongue on this one, but I have to get it off my chest.

This map is everything that is wrong with the custom community. There is literally hundreds of 'One Window' maps out there, and we simply do not need another one. I have barely any mapping experience and I have made two maps to date that took me less than a few hours that are better than this!

I hate criticizing mappers as a lot of them tend to take it the wrong way, but this type of work is simply lazy, or an attempt by mappers to get their work shown over on an NGT stream just so they can tell their friends.

It is not good enough, and it is not a map that will get played often, so what is the point? I apologies in advance for any offense taken by the mapper, but I just feel that the custom community is suffering due to these type of releases, and if a mapper is not willing to try and challenge themselves properly and release a map that is worthy, then no one will play them and it will all be for nothing.

ZM has too many of them and it is a chore trying to find a decent map on there nowadays will going through the thousands and thousands of box maps, one window maps and general trash. Does not help when they intentionally overrate their maps by giving them 8-10 stars only to find out is a trashy competition box map made in a day by one of their clique.

Agreed, the latest 10 map releases on ZM were all box maps/first maps and the last thing I want is that disease spreading here

Agreed, the latest 10 map releases on ZM were all box maps/first maps and the last thing I want is that disease spreading here

Well we didn't want to outright say that people weren't allowed to post box maps etc because I suppose there are still people who like to play those. However, our solution was to only put the better maps into the Manager - the maps who showed obvious effort beyond a one-room map. It's very hard to draw a line sometimes because people can be easily offended if a map they did put a lot of effort into still does not meet the expectations of the community. So my hope was that people who didn't want to sift through boxmaps could just pay attention to the Manager maps and ignore the Releases section - but obviously not everyone wants to do that.

This map is everything that is wrong with the custom community. There is literally hundreds of 'One Window' maps out there, and we simply do not need another one. I have barely any mapping experience and I have made two maps to date that took me less than a few hours that are better than this!

HOW? HOW does this ONE map represent EVERYTHING thats wrong with the "custom community"? Last time i checked, the so called "custom community" was crap WAY before this map was released. And if you think that you can do better than this THEN DO IT. Otherwise i don't see how in what right you have to go off on this particular map, when there are supposedly "hundreds" of box maps like this one.

It is not good enough, and it is not a map that will get played often, so what is the point? I apologies in advance for any offense taken by the mapper, but I just feel that the custom community is suffering due to these type of releases, and if a mapper is not willing to try and challenge themselves properly and release a map that is worthy, then no one will play them and it will all be for nothing.

If people want to play a box map, its their choice. Who are you -or anyone for that matter- to regulate in any form what people play with the game they bought? And HOW does 100 or even a million box maps hurt the community any?

ZM has too many of them and it is a chore trying to find a decent map on there nowadays will going through the thousands and thousands of box maps, one window maps and general trash. Does not help when they intentionally overrate their maps by giving them 8-10 stars only to find out is a trashy competition box map made in a day by one of their clique.

"general trash"? You mean stock maps i assume? Well let me tell you, not everyone wants the UGX mod, ZCT or any other type of mod/custom content shoved down their throats every second. Some people actually (whether you choose to believe it or not) want a pure, custom Call of Duty World at War experience, and not a half assed wannabe Black Ops or Black Ops 2 custom map with half assed, broken features. Not to say all maps are half assed, but many of them are.

Agreed, the latest 10 map releases on ZM were all box maps/first maps and the last thing I want is that disease spreading here

"disease"... really?

HOW? HOW does this ONE map represent EVERYTHING thats wrong with the "custom community"? Last time i checked, the so called "custom community" was crap WAY before this map was released. And if you think that you can do better than this THEN DO IT. Otherwise i don't see how in what right you have to go off on this particular map, when there are supposedly "hundreds" of box maps like this one.

If people want to play a box map, its their choice. Who are you -or anyone for that matter- to regulate in any form what people play with the game they bought? And HOW does 100 or even a million box maps hurt the community any?

"general trash"? You mean stock maps i assume? Well let me tell you, not everyone wants the UGX mod, ZCT or any other type of mod/custom content shoved down their throats every second. Some people actually (whether you choose to believe it or not) want a pure, custom Call of Duty World at War experience, and not a half assed wannabe Black Ops or Black Ops 2 custom map with half assed, broken features. Not to say all maps are half assed, but many of them are.

"disease"... really?

Well done +1

Well let me tell you, not everyone wants the UGX mod, ZCT or any other type of mod/custom content shoved down their throats every second. Some people actually (whether you choose to believe it or not) want a pure, custom Call of Duty World at War experience, and not a half assed wannabe Black Ops or Black Ops 2 custom map with half assed, broken features. Not to say all maps are half assed, but many of them are.

No one is shoving anything down anyone's throats. And last time I checked, UGX Mod had this crazy option where you could actually play the map without anything from the mod activated. I think it's called Classic mode or something.

No one is shoving anything down anyone's throats. And last time I checked, UGX Mod had this crazy option where you could actually play the map without anything from the mod activated. I think it's called Classic mode or something.

Except the weapons, yes i know. And thats one of my biggest issues with the UGX mod. The weapons aren't balanced well enough or interesting enough for me to have a good experience with UGX modded maps. I often find myself just upgrading the AK47 and G36C and not touching the other weapons since their two of the most powerful weapons in the mod.

Well we didn't want to outright say that people weren't allowed to post box maps etc because I suppose there are still people who like to play those. However, our solution was to only put the better maps into the Manager - the maps who showed obvious effort beyond a one-room map. It's very hard to draw a line sometimes because people can be easily offended if a map they did put a lot of effort into still does not meet the expectations of the community. So my hope was that people who didn't want to sift through boxmaps could just pay attention to the Manager maps and ignore the Releases section - but obviously not everyone wants to do that.

I tend to check releases often and most maps i download tend to be before they even appear on the manager and the majority of maps tend to be decent on here

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Except the weapons, yes i know. And thats one of my biggest issues with the UGX mod. The weapons aren't balanced well enough or interesting enough for me to have a good experience with UGX modded maps. I often find myself just upgrading the AK47 and G36C and not touching the other weapons since their two of the most powerful weapons in the mod.

meh, would play a UGX mod map over a stock map anyday, there are plenty of stock maps out there if thats the experience people want, but when it comes to new maps it is time to move on utilizing features we now have.

HOW? HOW does this ONE map represent EVERYTHING thats wrong with the "custom community"?

He didn't say this one map IS everything that is wrong with the community, but merely that it represents the things that are wrong with the community.

Last time i checked, the so called "custom community" was crap WAY before this map was released. .

Then GTFO, seriously. Then maybe it would be a little less crap.

Some people actually want a pure, custom Call of Duty World at War experience, and not a half assed wannabe Black Ops or Black Ops 2 custom map with half assed, broken features. Not to say all maps are half assed, but many of them are.

PURE?! What the hell are you talking about. Because it's new it's less PURE than your freaking stupid idea of a stock map utopia. Seriously, I want to punch a hole through your stupid face.

He didn't say this one map IS everything that is wrong with the community, but merely that it represents the things that are wrong with the community.
Then GTFO, seriously. Then maybe it would be a little less crap.
PURE?! What the hell are you talking about. Because it's new it's less PURE than your freaking stupid idea of a stock map utopia. Seriously, I want to punch a hole through your stupid face.

Chill. I never said that i wanted some kind of stock map utopia, hell i enjoy a UGX, ZCT, or other modded maps from time to time. But when things like weapons not being balanced or features being broken, it really turns off from the experience for me and plenty of other people. There should be no reason why after playing a custom map, my screen has flame FX for no reason, or why i can't change my resolution because a custom map corrupted my save file.

And sir, if you hate me so bad that you want to physically hurt me because i speak my opinion, then you really need help. I ain't joking around either.

you cant say stock maps are balanced also, most people when playing cod stock maps were, like buy mp40 or tommygun, buy box, then get ppsh and mg or maybe the wunderwaff. then we have like 20 unused guns that no one liked because past the rounf 10 they are more than useless!!.

Maybe we should just stop this argument right now