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Why do people bother putting broken weapons into their maps?

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Well it's easy not everyone but their a portion of people who play custom maps who don't care if there is any sound. They'll get a MSMC out of the box and go bananas because it's a weapon from BO2. And map makers who pull this know that if they put BO2 weapons on their futures tab that the map will get a lot of attention.
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If people would be more responsible about what they put up for download, this wouldn't be a problem. You can't blame people for downloading something and trying it out - you blame the person who put it available for download for not doing the best job possible and realizing that they are going to fuck up 80% of the community maps released for the next 6 months if they dont do it right. If the user can't download a broken pack they either don't download anything at all or do it differently (and possibly right) themselves.

And guys, seriously? No need to start naming names here, that's just asking for shit.

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I have observed this type of thing happening for years. Someone will release something to the community - it could be perfect, or maybe it works but has some bugs, or maybe its ridden with bugs. But what you can count on is that you will see that something in 80% of the maps released for the next 1-2 months. If that something was broken then god help you because you're going to have to put up with it for at least a month. If people did things themselves though it would be even worse when they dont know what they are doing - so thats not the solution. The solution is to stop trading/posting broken content for people to use. For instance I've seen a silenced Mauser that shoots thompson sounds in two maps in the last couple weeks...
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thats why I have been trying to fix them...
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thats why I have been trying to fix them...

I know that, I'm just simply trying to talk about those who don't care about balancing/fixing the ported weapons that THEY put into their maps
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And that's the thing I'm always bothered of. And I've seen quite a lot of people amazed when they got BO2 Colt 1911, when it actually had WaW anims and the model actually was the same as WaW. But it's just the type of things usual for lazy people. When I'm given such a gun pack, I make it perfect and give it normals and specs and fix the discarded tris.
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all I see is a bunch of bitching over the dumbest shit, god damn stop crying about it and learn how to fix the guns and maybe help the people that have "broken" guns (because they prob. don't know how to) ... BTW the gun still kills so broken is not a very good term .. maybe soundless guns ;D
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all I see is a bunch of bitching over the dumbest shit, god damn stop crying about it and learn how to fix the guns and maybe help the people that have "broken" guns (because they prob. don't know how to) ... BTW the gun still kills so broken is not a very good term .. maybe soundless guns ;D

Some guns dont even kill, well they do after 400 bullets, you try killing a zombie on round 30 with 40 damage per bullet
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all I see is a bunch of bitching over the dumbest shit, god damn stop crying about it and learn how to fix the guns and maybe help the people that have "broken" guns (because they prob. don't know how to) ...

If they don't have a general understanding of how to edit weapon stats then they probably shouldn't be messing with ported weapons to begin with IMO.

I don't blame the weapons nor do i blame whoever uploaded them to these sites for this mess. I blame the people who idiotically Dropped-N-Dragged these guns into their map without either testing them or even caring how they are.

After all, no ones making them add these weapons to their map. They are doing it completely by choice.
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all I see is a bunch of bitching over the dumbest shit, god damn stop crying about it and learn how to fix the guns and maybe help the people that have "broken" guns (because they prob. don't know how to) ... BTW the gun still kills so broken is not a very good term .. maybe soundless guns ;D

Are you serious?

Just because it still kills doesn't mean that it's not broken...if I were to use a Peacemaker in somebody's map, I would rather a REAL version of it instead of one that is incredibly weak, using an incorrect firing sound, unbelievably slow reload animation, incorrect running animations, and slow knifing...
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it's almost unavoidable. it sticks out the good mapmakers from the bad. if the good mapmakers gave out gun packs consisting of perfect guns... those guns would appear in countless maps and eventually become the norm and expected by the community. these maps being both treyarch like amazing maps and shitty box ones. this just hurts the good mapmakers in the long run because the community will grow sick of these now really common weapons and the community will want something more. sorry if that doesnt make sense it makes sense in my head :D
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"Why do people bother putting broken weapons into their maps?"

What a stupidly rhetorical question. This is merely a "statement" designed to get people to rally behind you CyberMan and to increase your popularity in the community as a smart guy who knows his stuff. Of course nobody likes broken weapons, but if a person doesn't know how to OR doesn't care enough to put fixed/accurate guns into their map then they won't.
This reminds me of that other idiot question that got posted here a while back,
"What site is better, ZM or UGX? Personally I think that UGX is better, but what do you all think?"

Another question that doesn't warrant a real answer just merely an acknowledgement of my superiority over other lesser people out there. Let's just put this sick horse down now.
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This is merely a "statement" designed to get people to rally behind you CyberMan and to increase your popularity in the community as a smart guy who knows his stuff.

Are you serious right now? :kidding:

I'm not an attention whore, dude. If you think I made this topic with the purpose of trying to become popular, then you're greatly wrong. I asked this question because I seriously wanted to know why people do this kind of stuff... :U

There have been so many past maps recently which I could name that included broken weapons from BO1 and BO2 (not sure if there is another map with broken weapons from other CoD games)...I really never understood why people put these kinds of weapons into their map, so I wanted to create this topic to get answers
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Are you serious right now? :kidding:

I'm not an attention whore, dude. If you think I made this topic with the purpose of trying to become popular, then you're greatly wrong. I asked this question because I seriously wanted to know why people do this kind of stuff... :U

There have been so many past maps recently which I could name that included broken weapons from BO1 and BO2 (not sure if there is another map with broken weapons from other CoD games)...I really never understood why people put these kinds of weapons into their map, so I wanted to create this topic to get answers
Again to the average joe who plays zombies doesn't care about the sounds at all. He'll get a M27 out of the box and flip shit because he has a weapon from BO2.
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All i have to say here is that, guns - features in general really bother me when there not as perfected as possible (which is what UGX are doing). I don't like stock maps because the bog standard WaW setup is way overused now and if i wanted to play that type of map there are plenty to choose from. Likewise it pisses me off to see maps with broken ported weapons from the other CODs - i dont play these maps either, Hobo Ville is an example of decent map itself with near enough perfect features from what ive played in the beta, detailed map with fun features.

 
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