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Contact Support - Help Center Get help on the UGX Discord. Join it now!Benevolent Soul who has our eternal gratitude and exclusive access to betas and the donator section of the forum. | |
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How do you know they aren't?
On a side note, if this is going to be a thing (which I support in full) then I feel that everyone involved in making the map should get a slice of the pie or at least have an opportunity to benefit from this in accordance with how involved they were in the project. They can certainly decline their share of the donation, but it should be offered at least.
Please give me beta access, I would LOVE to test CO-OP
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The paywall is incentive for people to actually contribute to the mapper instead of just taking the map for free and never coming back to make any sort of contribution. The debate is whether that's fair, not whether it helps the beta testing process.
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I understand your logic in this situation Treminaor, but unfortunately, I have to disagree with you. Adding a pay-to-play feature to a map doesn't offer incentive, I'm sorry, but it just doesn't.
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I know for fact it does, we've had a donation button for 3+ years and it became about 1000x more active once there was a map behind it.
As far as the rest of your post I honestly don't see how it's even relevant.
Case in point, this pay-to-play stand for this map does NOT incentive to come back and offer help in the form of bug reports. Donating to UGX-Mods because we want to see the mod come along as best as it can, and receive a map as a reward? All for it. Forcing people to donate to a mapper to be able to play the map as a way of saying 'Thank you'?
Nope.
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I know for fact it does, we've had a donation button for 3+ years and it became about 1000x more active once there was a map behind it.
As far as the rest of your post I honestly don't see how it's even relevant.
And what about me and all the other map makers? Can we release some unfinished map say it's in "BETA" and then charge people to play it? It looks like a slippery slope
Trem, please, hear me out, Your map, UGX Requiem, straight to UGX-Mods to fund the making of UGX-Mod Version 1.1.
This, this is mostly giving Stevie back the money he spent on the games he needed to rip models, anims, sounds etc.
With Oil Rig, We would just be donating for a map that will be free in just about a week. Not to mention I'm not paying after the whole "event" between MZ and Stevie, yet He gains the audacity to ask for money from me?
I know for fact it does, we've had a donation button for 3+ years and it became about 1000x more active once there was a map behind it.
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I said this earlier but people refused to believe it; people rarely donate out of the kindness of their heart alone, you might think 'well if they enjoy the map and there's a donate button people will happily donate' like fuck they will. 99% of people will only 'donate' if they know they are getting something in return. It's a fact.
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IMO, If your putting something like a map behind a paywall then its no longer a donation. At that point you are selling a product in exchange for money, which i don't think should be allowed. A major reason why the modding scene(not just this one, but others too) is the fact that mods are free. If people have to pay for mods(beta or full) then people will no longer want to download them.
Can you give me one single instance, in the history of CZ, where someone has donated to a mapper to show appreciation?
I don't think 99% of people on UGX have donated, lol.
IMO, If your putting something like a map behind a paywall then its no longer a donation. At that point you are selling a product in exchange for money, which i don't think should be allowed. A major reason why the modding scene(not just this one, but others too) is the fact that mods are free. If people have to pay for mods(beta or full) then people will no longer want to download them.
place your bets here folks! 90% of the UGX community vs UGX site mods, owners and Steviewonder, its gonna be a great night Only on ESPN
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