I'm sorry that i look at this from my perspective, if i am totally wrong, delete my post.

From the other side, 4000$ for a one year license is a huge chunk of the money that has been donated by today if you consider that there are like 1500 donors with an average 5$ each. (just an example to give a perspective)
To keep this site running it requires a decent amount of money, not even talking about improving which is all we want right?

Not saying that UGX is in money problems (isn't even my bussiness), but i understand they try to come up with ideas like these to finance the costs because you always need to be in terms of money one step ahead. And every little bit helps.

The paid betas idea unfortunately has a lot of mixed feelings, if you want to know my opinion: i'm the guy that has the patience and no problem with waiting for the actual release. So i read the post, had no problem with it and thought: "I'll just wait".

Some ideas that i would like to share:
- That the beta (In this case Oil Rig) is also included in the UGX donorship like the UGX-mod. It could give with moments a raise in the amount of new donors, mapper will get something in return (what fits the best);
- I see the mapping contest has a nice amount of maps to look forward to, so same idea like this, but a pre released map pack, a % of the profit goes to the 1st, 2nd and 3th place and so on ... (denies the stevie-haters and the people who say this idea was not good because it is just 1 map).

And ofcourse most of the amount of people with the mixed feelings here are the actual mappers, so it could be that people who just play the maps have absolutely no problem with paying for good beta maps. So if you would disagree as a mapper, well then you just don't do it. Simple.

Again if i mishit the ball, please correct me

No more similar to the way you donated so you could play Requiem.

nice try i donated on 2 occasions 10 and 15 dollars, both before requiem

i don't think you must keep the donation open don't be Activision

I'm tired of people like Dilekjd raking in the paper while the people who are creating the actual content get jack shit w 0 recognition, I suggest a donation button for each ESTABLISHED mapper, I've gone out of my way trying to donating to several map makers on this site but couldn't do so, I couldn't pm them due to my lost post count at the time (which is fine), resorting to their twitter/facebook asking how to send them a donations, which is way to much effort to show my support.  I wish it was easier like other mod/dev sites.   

Well then. Just to anyone wanting to bring the legal aspect into this.

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Illegal? Out? I wouldn't think an actual treyarch rep would have so many spelling mistakes. Mind providing a link to the twitter profile? Just to verify.

Edit. On a tablet... illegal is supposed to be spelled wrong.

Well then. Just to anyone wanting to bring the legal aspect into this.

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Not even the official Treyarch twitter account, just looked it up and a lot of spelling errors, considering the official Treyarch twitter account is @Treyarch, not @TreyarchHQ.

Illegal? Out? I wouldn't think an actual treyarch rep would have so many spelling mistakes. Mind providing a link to the twitter profile? Just to verify.

https://twitter.com/TreyarchHQ

Looking at the follow count now looks a bit off, but you never know. And it doesn't seem associated with ATV or 3ARC at all, so it might be bogus.

https://twitter.com/TreyarchHQ

Looking at the follow count now looks a bit off, but you never know. And it doesn't seem associated with ATV or 3ARC at all, so it might be bogus.

Especially with that sort of activity.

i dont think thats a real page

Illegal? Out? I wouldn't think an actual treyarch rep would have so many spelling mistakes. Mind providing a link to the twitter profile? Just to verify.

Edit. On a tablet... illegal is supposed to be spelled wrong.

If I was to guess, I would say Stevie set that fake Treyarch support account up with the intention of intercepting all complaints against his beta/donor plan.

Very crafty Stevie. Bravo!

If I was to guess, I would say Stevie set that fake Treyarch support account up with the intention of intercepting all complaints against his beta/donor plan.

Very crafty Stevie. Bravo!

death your profile pic really gives me the heebie-jeebies

To those of you who reported the site to Activision could have killed the whole idea of BO3 mod tools coming out.

can somebody please help me get OIL RIG working. It Say's "unauthorized user visit" and i have internet connection and my account's online. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

To those of you who reported the site to Activision could have killed the whole idea of BO3 mod tools coming out.

nah I think bo3 mod tools and maps would have their own steam workshop

To those of you who reported the site to Activision could have killed the whole idea of BO3 mod tools coming out.

it was already dead