Are you paying Treyarch also for the whole engine and the mod tools? No only for the game. But now you're making money off Treyarch's product. But ah, that's fair right? Don't talk about fair.

No I did nothing at all towards the creation of the map. And I see you're a donator? Did you donate for Requiem? What were you saying again?

Why not just have the site mods verify if you're eligible to have a donation button? just sayin'

What would be the requirements though? Me personally, I'd give it to every member with a title.

Anyone remember the outlash from Steam Workshop mods? Yeah... same thing applies here.

How about we leave donations open, and once a certain target is hit the map is released fully?

Personally, I think a donation button under a mappers name would be largly ignored no matter how good the mappers work looks. If people can get something free then they take that option 9/10 times.

There is nothing wrong with a mapper offering people the opportunity to beta test their work if they donate. Basically a perk of being a donor is the chance to get early access. For some hear though it is not an incentive for mappers, it's a money grab. Some even being pathetic enough to report it to Activision.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions though. Some see it as selfish and greedy to expect people to pay a few bucks to play an amazing map early while others just hate Stevie and want to use it as an excuse to rant. Me? I am just happy to see it finally released, even in beta form. I hope those who ignored the riots are enjoying one of the best custom maps ever made.

How about we leave donations open, and once a certain target is hit the map is released fully?

No, that's still paying for a map

Personally, I think a donation button under a mappers name would be largly ignored no matter how good the mappers work looks. If people can get something free then they take that option 9/10 times.

There is nothing wrong with a mapper offering people the opportunity to beta test their work if they donate. Basically a perk of being a donor is the chance to get early access. For some hear though it is not an incentive for mappers, it's a money grab. Some even being pathetic enough to report it to Activision.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions though. Some see it as selfish and greedy to expect people to pay a few bucks to play an amazing map early while others just hate Stevie and want to use it as an excuse to rant. Me? I am just happy to see it finally released, even in beta form. I hope those who ignored the riots are enjoying one of the best custom maps ever made.

Can always trust Zen to provide a reasoned and balanced opinion. +1

I play custom zombies mainly because of the free maps and i don't see a point why any mapper should get money for making these maps if they made them without pay anything and also why should i pay for the buggy beta version off a map? ???

No, that's still paying for a map

No it isn't. People are donating to show their appreciation and I'm donating back the released map in return as a sign of my appreciation.

No it isn't. People are donating to show their appreciation and I'm donating back the released map in return as a sign of my appreciation.

Curse your logic

No it isn't. People are donating to show their appreciation and I'm donating back the released map in return as a sign of my appreciation.

ah in the same way that i donate my money to a shop and in return they donate me some food

I play custom zombies mainly because of the free maps and i don't see a point why any mapper should get money for making these maps if they made them without pay anything and also why should i pay for the buggy beta version off a map? ???

This is the reason most great mappers make 1 or 2 maps and leave the scene. No incentive to stick around and no appreciation for their hard work.

ah in the same way that i donate my money to a shop and in return they donate me some food

No more similar to the way you donated so you could play Requiem.

Well then. Just to anyone wanting to bring the legal aspect into this.

Well then. Just to anyone wanting to bring the legal aspect into this.

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Taylor Bates, sounds like the kid who grasses on you at school when you sneak in late and the teacher doesn't notice