activision does  NOT own the scripts that I wrote actually

This is a pointless debate anyway, your all just gonna ignore my point on it anyway so Ill just be on my way

I "also" hate the mentality of the way people think they can do what ever they please with work some of us have spent years on trying to make "1" experience, not a "starter pack"

but whatever, im out...

That's for original file but when compiled through linker_pc or archived by 7zip, the file inside, it doesn't belong to you anymore.

Then again there's probably some bullshit EULA/TOS in Sublime/UE that we don't know about it 

activision does  NOT own the scripts that I wrote actually - I could easily remove any references to cod stuff from my work

This is a pointless debate anyway, your all just gonna ignore my point on it anyway so Ill just be on my way

I "also" hate the mentality of the way people think they can do what ever they please with work some of us have spent years on trying to make "1" experience, not a "starter pack"

but whatever, im out...

Changing a line of code doesn't take away years spent on a boss...

In the end it's just a opinion you're not willing to listen reason to.

My work, is my work. A copy of that work - is still my work

but anyway, like i said, im done

Changing a line of code doesn't take away years spent on a boss...

In the end it's just a opinion you're not willing to listen reason to.

I wrote them from scratch buddy, try again...

and your just as much ignoring my stance on this so whatever...

My work, is my work. A copy of that work - is still my work

but anyway, like i said, im done

I wrote them from scratch buddy, try again...

and your just as much ignoring my stance on this so whatever...

I totally see your point, nobody is wrong here.

I was comparing the two opinions. I would know, i have spent 3 years on my map and i'm still not happy with it. So it would bother me if somebody tampered with it but in the end it's about giving the player the best experience they want to play it. Am i doing something wrong?

I totally see your point, nobody is wrong here.

I was comparing the two opinions. I would know, i have spent 3 years on my map and i'm still not happy with it. So it would bother me if somebody tampered with it but in the end it's about giving the player the best experience they want to play it. Am i doing something wrong?

nope, you can do what you like with "your work"

however i would not like to see "my work" that i pour my heart and soul into changed, and probably redistributed on the internet

if your cool with that, then thats up to you, i however make things that i want to be customizable - customizable    and things i dont want touched, i dont give you the ability to touch

nope, you can do what you like with "your work"

however i would not like to see "my work" that i pour my heart and soul into changed, and probably redistributed on the internet

if your cool with that, then thats up to you, i however make things that i want to be customizable - customizable    and things i dont want touched, i dont give you the ability to touch

I'm sorry but you don't know what the definition of mod is then.

nope, you can do what you like with "your work"

however i would not like to see "my work" that i pour my heart and soul into changed, and probably redistributed on the internet

if your cool with that, then thats up to you, i however make things that i want to be customizable - customizable    and things i dont want touched, i dont give you the ability to touch

You should start VMP'ing your scripts   

I'm sorry but you don't know what the definition of mod is then.

lol how typical, insult my intelligence because I feel differently...

lol how typical, insult my intelligence because I feel differently...

modding is modifying. So what you said about don't change anything defeats the whole purpose of modding. 

funny, tom didnt release the lime and lemon tools for cod 5 why again?

just agree to disagree, no need for the insulting tone and degrading comments coz you dont agree and are clearly totally ignoring the fact im just saying, i dont think its fair to change someone elses work without permission ESPECIALLY if your handing it out to your friends - who could then hand it to their friends etc etc until they bust it up so bad the ORIGINAL mapper gets a rep coz they dont know thats not how THE ORIGINAL mapper made it, or worse, lost credit/ownership alltogether, end of debate

I'll admit I've sometimes gone through some maps and change the FOV to 85 on it because the lack of a FOV slider (65 looks so awful when you're right next to a monitor) and the fact that binding the keys to cg_fov 85 would never work for me. 
Thank god though that FOV sliders are becoming a thing for most maps now though cause it was a pain in the ass to do it, and the fact I felt a little guilty.

funny, tom didnt release the lime and lemon tools for cod 5 why again?

just agree to disagree, no need for the insulting tone and degrading comments coz you dont agree and are clearly totally ignoring the fact im just saying, i dont think its fair to change someone elses work without permission ESPECIALLY if your handing it out to your friends - who could then hand it to their friends etc etc until they bust it up so bad the ORIGINAL mapper gets a rep coz they dont know thats not how THE ORIGINAL mapper made it, or worse, lost credit/ownership alltogether, end of debate

The reason is because he assumed people would try and export non-released game anims from other people's maps :|

E: Soul I never need UI or script I got T4M which takes care of that 

by using the mod tools you're considered you read and accepted the terms written in the eula which means you don't have any rights of your work once it's compiled wether you've read the eula or not. so it's kinda pointless to explain why you don't want people to change things in your maps.

Why are people bringing up the Activision TOS like that's relevant somehow? No-one is saying it's illegal to modify someone's map It's just a simple matter of respect for people who decided to take a shitload of time making something for you to play for free.

Why are people bringing up the Activision TOS like that's relevant somehow? No-one is saying it's illegal to modify someone's map It's just a simple matter of respect for people who decided to take a shitload of time making something for you to play for free.

not to mention depending on what you change could result in a ton of coop errors, or maybe no errors, but since your hosting there wont be dogs, but then one of your friends hosts or plays solo and dogs are randomly there out of nowhere the they will be extremely confused, think the mod is broken, ect.