Is the toxicity I see in the"Map Ideas" section universal?

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Hello, as you may notice, I'm fairly new to the community.  I've noticed that the "Map Ideas" is a toxic forum where players post their (sometimes not very good) ideas, and people spent the next 50 replies circlejerking how awful it is.  As I'm making my decision on how committed I am to this community, I want to know, is everybody as toxic as the "map ideas" section?  Or are there just a few trolls that have placed their cave there?
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Most people simply find the ideas there silly, and feel the need to comment how bad it is, even if 10 people have already done it. Truth is most of the ideas that are submitted are sort of "stupid". Most of it goes about having one room, or every wonderweapon, every perk or similar attributes. You can see that when people actually do come up with some decent designs, they are welcomed by a not-so toxic mass.

Come up with another idea that people don't like, and you WILL get hate in the replies. It's just how it's gotten in these corners. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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The only ideas that we "circlejerk" around with are the ideas that are utter shit and have not thought put into them. There are plenty of posts that were kept on topic because they were actually well thought out and worth reading. But this shit that we get most of the time is just abismal.
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my first map was simply an idea and it become a reality after more things come together, this is only one subsection of the forums so judging an entire site solidly by replies on boxmaps is unfair to the rest of the community hope you will discover the wonderful work in progress sections and try out the map under the category of Releases :) wish you best of luck and welcome to the zombie community
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If you don't like someone's idea, then explain why (has been done too many times, would make map too easy, idea is too hard to implement, etc.) not just say an idea is stupid.

Explain so people can understand where you're coming from, and not just feel hated on.


I feel that's kind of common sense, yet some need to hear it regardless.
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Thank you NomNom, I agree wholeheartedly.  Saying X is shit isn't helpful.
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Thank you NomNom, I agree wholeheartedly.  Saying X is shit isn't helpful.

Wholeheartedly agree too!

Reply with a short explanation and/or leave the thread.
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I actually disagree

Sure some people cant control their crappy responses and I agree thats wrong, but not to the full extent described here

Its as MZ said, some of it - is just not what the section is for at all

I think some of this falls on the user. I for one, take a look around forum boards before steamrolling in, oblivious to what has been said / done before - or in most cases, with something thats entirely nothing to do with the board at all

If your gonna just completely ignore the other 100 posts in there, and still come in a post a "map" idea, that is just a list of guns, honestly i dont know what they expect? Coz the last thing i "expect" to see is "wow, great idea!"

Can you imaine if Treyarch did this? Hey guys got some great DLC coming your way! Gun, Gun, Gun, Gun, Gun, Gun and Gun - stay tuned.


People need to pay attention to what the board is "for" - just as much as people need to control their attitudes. Its called forum etiquette. This section has become a farce frankly, bar the one or two well thought out ideas that actually do get posted



So the long and short is - there is fault on "both" sides, as due to the shed load of utter uselessness we see in here, leads to people with actual map ideas, not wasting their time to post them
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I actually disagree

Sure some people cant control their crappy responses and I agree thats wrong, but not to the full extent described here

Its as MZ said, some of it - is just not what the section is for at all

I think some of this falls on the user. I for one, take a look around forum boards before steamrolling in, oblivious to what has been said / done before - or in most cases, with something thats entirely nothing to do with the board at all

If your gonna just completely ignore the other 100 posts in there, and still come in a post a "map" idea, that is just a list of guns, honestly i dont know what they expect? Coz the last thing i "expect" to see is "wow, great idea!"

Can you imaine if Treyarch did this? Hey guys got some great DLC coming your way! Gun, Gun, Gun, Gun, Gun, Gun and Gun - stay tuned.


People need to pay attention to what the board is "for" - just as much as people need to control their attitudes. Its called forum etiquette. This section has become a farce frankly, bar the one or two well thought out ideas that actually do get posted



So the long and short is - there is fault on "both" sides, as due to the shed load of utter uselessness we see in here, leads to people with actual map ideas, not wasting their time to post them


I don't think I disagree with anything you said ;)
Except I'm not sure what you disagree about.

I don't expect people to not react as they do, or feel that the sections need any of those kinds of ideas. And I feel they "should" check out other posts before posting an idea that may have many good arguments against it, or may simply have been posted way too many times already in one form or another.

I just would like there to be less hostile noise and more to the point arguments, or no response at all.

Response with signal/information:
Box maps have been made 100 times before, most people find it very boring and there's already far too many to choose from.

Response with pure noise:
Your ideas suck, please leave forever.

To me at least, it doesn't seem like we disagree.
I just don't see the point in bringing someone down, when we can tell them what's wrong without hostility;)

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Response with pure noise:
Your ideas suck, please leave forever.

But I don't think anyone has ever said that lol. Most responses are trying to be humorous usually rather than outright hateful. ::)
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I don't think I disagree with anything you said ;)
Except I'm not sure what you disagree about.

I don't expect people to not react as they do, or feel that the sections need any of those kinds of ideas. And I feel they "should" check out other posts before posting an idea that may have many good arguments against it, or may simply have been posted way too many times already in one form or another.

I just would like there to be less hostile noise and more to the point arguments, or no response at all.

Response with signal/information:
Box maps have been made 100 times before, most people find it very boring and there's already far too many to choose from.

Response with pure noise:
Your ideas suck, please leave forever.

To me at least, it doesn't seem like we disagree.
I just don't see the point in bringing someone down, when we can tell them what's wrong without hostility;)
- which is exactly what i just said ;)

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some people cant control their crappy responses and I agree thats wrong

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but not to the full extent described here
- here is my disagreement

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People need to pay attention to what the board is "for" - just as much as people need to control their attitudes. Its called forum etiquette. This section has become a farce frankly, bar the one or two well thought out ideas that actually do get posted
- us saying the same thing
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But I don't think anyone has ever said that lol. Most responses are trying to be humorous usually rather than outright hateful. ::)

Hehe no, that was a quick exaggeration to easily get the point across :)

- which is exactly what i just said ;)
 - here is my disagreement
 - us saying the same thing

ok, seems we agree.
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I sometimes treat my map ideas like an essay. If its good for quite sometime I start to work on an in depth post.

Usually no one reads them anyway because they always respond to the sh!tty ideas

 

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