Where did I 'speak for the community'? ???

I just got annoyed since you was speaking for the community in saying we want something in return, because some of us do it to make people happy.

All this time since the mod tools got released, people have been making maps for fun and what they get in return is seeing people enjoy. It's been like this for several years now and it has worked well and made both the developer and the player happy, and now suddenly it's just about the money...

Well well, I guess this just another case of a failed "company" well a forum. Look at the worst company in the world, Electronic arts, they used to care about what they did with their games until when they relized how much money they can actually get.

"the mappers/modders just simply don't have the time or motivation to spend that much time on something for absolutely nothing in return"

Yes just cut me off mid sentence and quote it. I referenced my map, the Leviathan team (who said the same thing), and Herrenhaus, and probably a few others so I put 'etc'. How is that speaking for the community?

Yes just cut me off mid sentence and quote it. I referenced my map, the Leviathan team (who said the same thing), and Herrenhaus, and probably a few others so I put 'etc'. How is that speaking for the community?

2. Most of what i've been saying is fact and can be proven.

1. not relevant to the topic.

Well, I guess the leviathan team only have themselves to blame if they said that, they continued anyway. Hell, they even updated it today.

I actually agree this should just be locked and removed

People cant actually discuss these things

All they can do is twist the point to make it seem worse than it is, go crying to activision, attack the SITE and lie claiming they would never accept money for this

The whole thing has just become the usual crap we see time and time again

If it were "for fun and enjoyment", we wouldnt have 100s of cancelled maps in LOS because of people coming and hating on them so bad, the mapper cancels and moves on

I think we should all stop playing the "we are such a kind community" card and face facts

people are free to take donations if they want, if you dont like it, dont dontate. And stop "twisting" it to say its "all about money"

Coz by that logic, I remind you just how many absent mappers have ONLY appeared for the contests...

It is a new map? Wow, I thought they just fixed some script things and made an update? Well if it's already a whole new map I'm even more excited to play it now.

I never said its all about money, its the fact that people are not getting the map the same time as everyone else, its restricting the map from other people since if the beta comes out for donaters, that in theory should be the date it comes out for everyone.. But it isn't. Which is why I think its wrong.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the donating to mappers / modders to encourage them, but not when its pushing out betas to people who pay up, and leaving people who don't pay with no beta.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the donating to mappers / modders to encourage them, but not when its pushing out betas to people who pay up, and leaving people who don't pay with no beta.
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that in theory should be the date it comes out for everyone

Nope it isn't a new map, like you said. But they still decided to keep developing the map. No one forced them to continue developing, they could have stopped anytime.

and im not talking about "you" specifically, please "try" to see that

I can already tell some of you are just assuming im taking sides coz im friends with Stevie, but thats nothing to do with it. I literally feel people are entitled to take donations, to help them further their work in the future

and im not talking about "you" specifically, please "try" to see that

I can already tell some of you are just assuming im taking sides coz im friends with Stevie, but thats nothing to do with it. I literally feel people are entitled to take donations, to help them further their work in the future

Not bias at all...

So am I, in fact I think everyone should have a donate button below their name, but it shouldn't impact other people who don't donate. Also, please don't get cocky, it just makes me cringe kinda

um, I worked on this damn hard, and "I" am getting fuck all from this donation process, and stuffy said the same

So take your words and kindly...

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"and im not talking about "you" specifically, please "try" to see that"

"I wasnt

grow up"