The swan? Worth paying for?!  :0

The swan? Worth paying for?!  :0

Not everyone plays on a potato Alex...

It was HeXZombies wasn't it? I still have his recording of him bitching out chroma for nothing on my computer somewhere. Everyone knows HeX was, and still is, a little bitch.

Hex Zombies, not HeX - thank you very much...

The only problem I see with paid beta is that, if the map is not up to expectations whatsoever, there's no refunds for a map you just purchased and hated. It could very well completely fuck the reputation of CZ as a money-grabbing conglomerate, especially since the popularity on paid mods is already way in the negatives.

How about this? When a mapper starts a WIP he may contact someone at UGX (sure, I'll be the guy for this, thank you for asking) and he will assess the project and if it gets approved then the person or team can be given a donate button on their WIP so that people can donate to a mapper and it will in no way be viewed as paying for content since the money changing hands will not coincide with the release of the map. I'd be glad to invest in a project that I believe in. Will this proposal satisfy the douche bags out there? Speak douche bags!

No need to insult people who have put forward some valid arguments.

Only problem with this proposal is what happens if the WIP is cancelled by the mapper? The WIP would have to be well on its way into development to show that it will be completed. Otherwise sounds fine.

Nope, nope, that's fine, we've heard the speeches already. I love you like a son Daedra, but the powers that be don't agree with you and we've heard it all before.

So according to "the powers that be", Treyarch(Activision) doesn't own the content they produce.  K then, wish i knew that earlier, would have ripped all of the assets from BO2 and made my own game using them called: Duty of Calls: White Ops and sold beta access for $4. They wouldn't mind, right? Not like they own the rights to it, atleast according to "the powers that be".

Edit: Actually, Treyarch(Activision) doesn't even own the rights to Call of Duty. So i can just make a new call of duty game AND decompile the engine, modify, sell it, etc.

So according to "the powers that be", Treyarch(Activision) doesn't own the content they produce.  K then, wish i knew that earlier, would have ripped all of the assets from BO2 and made my own game using them called: Duty of Calls: White Ops and sold beta access for $4. They wouldn't mind, right? Not like they own the rights to it, atleast according to "the powers that be".

Edit: Actually, Treyarch(Activision) doesn't even own the rights to Call of Duty. So i can just make a new call of duty game AND decompile the engine, modify, sell it, etc.

omg DD who gives a crap honestly

If you dont wanna pay then dont

If you dont wanna play then dont

if you wanna play, but dont wanna pay then "WAIT" till it "becomes" free

No need to insult people who have put forward some valid arguments.

Only problem with this proposal is what happens if the WIP is cancelled by the mapper? The WIP would have to be well on its way into development to show that it will be completed. Otherwise sounds fine.

your not supporting the "map" your supporting the "mapper"

Its not about dont want to pay to play.

Its about whether if this can be done legally.

Its not about dont want to pay to play.

Its about whether if this can be done legally.

who CARES

I dont, im sure activision dont, only people that do are the ones who - shockingly - would need to pay "AT THE MOMENT"

or learn some patience

I'm fine with the paid beta or paid early access myself, I'm just not sure about the repercussions that could follow.

your not supporting the "map" your supporting the "mapper"

If you want to support the mapper then don't connect the donation to the map. Just put a donate button on the map topic.

I'm fine with the paid beta or paid early access myself, I'm just not sure about the repurcussions that could follow.

there will be none

just like there have never been any for anything else thats exactly the same as this

Its a "donation", that "donation" is rewarded by giving you early access

companies have been doing this for years

example, cant sell alchol past a certain time? Fine, sell food, and give the alcohol as a "free bonus"

LEGAL

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If you want to support the mapper then don't connect the donation to the map. Just put a donate button on the map topic.

we never suggested that in the first place, we suggested adding the button to your profile

Companies yes, but Modders?

omg DD who gives a crap honestly

A lot of people, apparently. Otherwise we wouldn't have this discussion in the first place.

I dont, im sure activision dont

You think Activision doesn't care that people are making money off of their content? 

Maybe i should hit them up on twitter and find out...

Companies yes, but Modders?

yes modders

thousands of times to my knowledge

theres no difference between company or personal for "donations"

which is the word everyone is choosing to ignore

A lot of people, apparently. Otherwise we wouldn't have this discussion in the first place.

Yes, and MUCH to my "surprise", it was majority of people who want it but dont wanna pay, or CONSTANTLY complain about EVERYTHING or the kids who dont have money...

Maybe i should hit them up on twitter and find out...

very mature, why am i not surprised

but please do, go right ahead and watch the multi million dollar company show absolutely no interest