Seriously, Treyarch had to see this coming really. I Really felt shadows of evil has been over hyped with all these stuff shown off. I mean with all these posters, the Ride at six flags (is it still open btw?) the lore, everything seemed like a complete box office bomb.

I didnt see any relevance to any storyline, or any conclusion to shadows other than a "Hey! You 4, take this sphere and do many time consuming objectives with it until richtofan comes and takes it."

I mean, did treyarch intend to have a new story or did they hear all the fans requests and scrap their story and ditch the star studded characters? Thats my problem, I dont like cliffhangers left unresold, Sure they made and continued our conclusion to origins but they couldnt have hyped SOE up just for a filler between Origins and The Giant.

I may be repeating myself so I want to know what you guys think (AGAIN if i didnt post already)

I think they just wanted to start off with a bang and celebrity maps normally are better than the regular zombies maps (Five, COTD, MOTD, Maybe the AW DLCs ). The issue is that they didn't work on the story for each character past their "sins" so they seemed bland. They gave each one a history, sure, but it all seemed to revolve around their "sins." I don't believe the COTD characters got a resolution either so don't think it hasn't happened before. I mean, I was pumped to shit for SOE and still believe in it, but I can't bring myself to play it alone with all the rituals and what not, especially when Der Eisendrache is right there next to it as an option (I know I panned it for being reused crap and that still slightly bothers me, but they brought in enough original interesting stuff to balance it out). If maybe one of the side bosses were removed, I might be able to handle it but having margwas, bees, and meatballs (Oh my!) makes it little too tough for me when I have to do the rituals and worry about the keepers at the same time. All in all, I think SOE did the same as Der Eisendrache with reusing the stuff we liked, but they didn't do it in a way we liked. SOE is fucking beautiful, though. It's worth some time in theater mode just to look around at that map.

I think they just wanted to start off with a bang and celebrity maps normally are better than the regular zombies maps (Five, COTD, MOTD, Maybe the AW DLCs ). The issue is that they didn't work on the story for each character past their "sins" so they seemed bland. They gave each one a history, sure, but it all seemed to revolve around their "sins." I don't believe the COTD characters got a resolution either so don't think it hasn't happened before. I mean, I was pumped to shit for SOE and still believe in it, but I can't bring myself to play it alone with all the rituals and what not, especially when Der Eisendrache is right there next to it as an option (I know I panned it for being reused crap and that still slightly bothers me, but they brought in enough original interesting stuff to balance it out). If maybe one of the side bosses were removed, I might be able to handle it but having margwas, bees, and meatballs (Oh my!) makes it little too tough for me when I have to do the rituals and worry about the keepers at the same time. All in all, I think SOE did the same as Der Eisendrache with reusing the stuff we liked, but they didn't do it in a way we liked. SOE is fucking beautiful, though. It's worth some time in theater mode just to look around at that map.

I See what you did mean about starting off with a bang, but When I Did the easter egg for the 1st time with my friend Robert, we both thought this would kick start with a new story and have the giant as a side map, but when they showed Richthofen taking the key from the keeper and run off, We were like: "That's IT? That's the big bang?" like seeing the statue of liberty or Washington DC In real life, "That's It?"

I could do without the margwa being in every 3 rounds and stick to the meatballs and they could save the margwa & the buggers for the boss fight.

They actually changed the Margwa, its every 5-6 rounds now like the Panzer.

I think SoE is a VERY good map, it has probably the best "oh shit" wonder weapon we've EVER had tbh, but its ammo count is a bit lackluster (gumballs make up for it though)
The design is nice, and the theme of the map is something new, its probably the only map to take place in a regular place as such, where people used to live an everyday life.

There's still 2 more dlc's left, they could continue the SoE story in one or both of those maps. We'll just have to wait and see.

I See what you did mean about starting off with a bang, but When I Did the easter egg for the 1st time with my friend Robert, we both thought this would kick start with a new story and have the giant as a side map, but when they showed Richthofen taking the key from the keeper and run off, We were like: "That's IT? That's the big bang?" like seeing the statue of liberty or Washington DC In real life, "That's It?"

I could do without the margwa being in every 3 rounds and stick to the meatballs and they could save the margwa & the buggers for the boss fight.

erm - celebrity maps have "never" continued on? So not sure why this surprised you