ROCK ON!!! I was afraid this one had died. Good to hear n123q45!

Thanks and with a better note... i will be releasing the so promised beta soon. For those of the beta testers that still want to teat it. After my break, i still only have bus deport done but bus deport needs a few more changes and itll be good. By being a beta tester your job is to help me find glitches and give me ideas to make it beter. YOU DO NOT HAVE PERMISSION TO RELEASE ANY CONTENT ON THE MAP UNTIL A WEEK AFTER THE FINAL BETA. NOTE: the stuff in the beta are not official and are subject to change. Good hunting.

I would love the opportunity to beta test it if the chance arises.

I'd love to beta test too!

The original beta testers have a week to contact me and tell me that they still want in. If some choose not to, spots will re open for you guys. The week starts tommorrow.
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Id love to beta test.

Why not add the 2k stealing witches and the perk stealing astronaut zombie! I don't see why not!

nice idea. Ill see what i can do  lol im kidding. But like i mentioned way earlier about my ee (easter egg) it will be as hard as bo2 easter eggs. There will be clues no directions. You have to work for your reward...

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Just as long as your "reward" isn't, Congratulations, you may now save up for the 100k buyable ending! If it is I am going to be SO mad!

id like to beta test, and with the EE reward, it'll be cool to actually get a worthwhile reward unlike the BO2 maps

it'll be cool to actually get a worthwhile reward unlike the BO2 maps

You know, the more I think about this the more I feel like a good fun experience is its own reward. So, you play through a map, open everything up, buy all your perks, PAP some guns, solve the EE and then...what? You've just exhausted the map, what could the mapper give us at that point that would really blow us away? I think that if the map offers an enjoyable experience, looks good, has a fun EE and the last step ends the map then that should be enough. And if it's not, then maybe there is something wrong with us. How do you all feel about that?

yes but the EEs in BO2 aren't fun, there just a pain and a chore to do IMO, i havent even done the origins one as it takes forever, is not fun, and gives you no reward, i want more EEs like the moon one, fun to do and you get a decent reward at the end of it

You know, the more I think about this the more I feel like a good fun experience is its own reward. So, you play through a map, open everything up, buy all your perks, PAP some guns, solve the EE and then...what? You've just exhausted the map, what could the mapper give us at that point that would really blow us away? I think that if the map offers an enjoyable experience, looks good, has a fun EE and the last step ends the map then that should be enough. And if it's not, then maybe there is something wrong with us. How do you all feel about that?

I see where you are coming from, and definitely think you are right to an extent.

I have been playing a lot of Origins recently, and that is mainly down to abandoning the map completely on the 4th day of release after completing the EE because I was completely turned off by the map.

As a story enthusiast, I felt the direction Origins took from a storyline POV was awful. It contradicted so much and put us in an over the top, unrealistic scenario. I also felt the end sequence was a slap in the face of all those in the community who actually helped mold this storyline into what it is now.

Looking past that, the EE itself is actually not as bad as I first thought, but it IS still a chore, and is still somewhat unrewarding. The upgraded fists are pointless because the knifing system is so poor in BO2 that it renders them dangerous to use. It was a bitter finale when compared with Moon, and I think they could have also done away with the already used 'End-Game' choice.

Looking back at the EE's in BO2, they were all more or less undervalued by in-game features.

Tranzit EE was very short and unsatisfying. Reward was a random perk drop that was devalued by the fact that they were easily obtainable in-game.

Die Rise EE was not too bad, but it made no sense... at all! Reward was all the perks, though not permanent, and was also devalued by the fact these perks were easily obtainable in the Nova Crawler rounds

MotD EE was very different to the norm. Again, it was short and unrewarding, but had for the first time, an end game option and also rewarded the player with a series of weapons throughout the steps.

Buried EE was fun enough to do, and the reward of permanent perk was good, but again was someone devalued by the persistent Tombstone perk. End game box was again somewhat rewarding, but it all felt predictable.

I was hoping Origins reward would have been unlocking a bonus map or game mode. Something epic to end the series. I did not expect the same end game as MotD.

The problem with the EE's on BO2, is that no one ever wants to do them. Even when I play Origins with randoms, they just want to do up to the staffs and no more.

They could easily have added better rewards to the end game box also. Maybe allowing it to be triggered on either of the new four's maps. I would love to have had 4 guns and a permanent fire sale on Tranzit or Die Rise.

ya bo2 was a let down. thats why i decided to redo tranzit to make it fun and stuff

would love to beta test!

Glad to see progress being made on this, look forward to the outcome

Regarding BO2, the Easter Eggs as a whole were akin to Ascension imo, the effort didn't justify the reward. As said above, Die Rise you can get all perks easily enough [generally speaking] to not need to do the Easter Egg.

TranZit's was way too short and underwhelming BUT it did start the trend of different paths to take which was an interesting concept.

I actually liked Mob of the Dead's as it was well constructed and I think made it one of the best maps hands down - only downside is the lack of subtitles for those who are hard of hearing or deaf.

Buried's was ok but the last bit was frustrating and again the rewards weren't too good - permanent perks was ok but 4 guns and a never-ending Fire Sale were unnecessary imo.

But the game's finale, Origins, was Easter Egg overkill - by comparison to Moon where I tend to do the Easter Egg EVERY time I play it I seriously would only do the Origins one again fully to help others get the trophy.
Constructing the staffs isn't too bad but you practically have an Easter Egg per staff, another for the G-Strike [which I do but it is funny to use melee to get a Monkey upgrade instead of a melee upgrade lol] and overall it is insane all the things you do. The turd on the cake has to be the storyline destroying 'ending' - less said on that the better...