All I was saying about die rise was the easy of getting the wonder weapon.

I mean, I could have said buried

Buried is one of my favorite maps... 

Buried is one of my favorite maps... 

wat? i hated that map with a fiery passion

wat? i hated that map with a fiery passion

I personally liked A.) seeing how far away from the blockades I could go to get the most points from the half-bred retard, B.) the steampunk feel to the map, C.) Garden, D.) Very original ideas throughout the map, and E.) No real training and locking yourself by Jugg was the most fun I've ever had in any map. I can't see how anyone found that boring.

I personally liked A.) seeing how far away from the blockades I could go to get the most points from the half-bred retard, B.) the steampunk feel to the map, C.) Garden, D.) Very original ideas throughout the map, and E.) No real training and locking yourself by Jugg was the most fun I've ever had in any map. I can't see how anyone found that boring.

I liked buried too, i would like to add something to your post tho.
Loking yourself in jug was fun, but camping in that room in the saloon, where you could just shoot in front of you, and if you got cornered you could just jump down that hole in the wall was awesome too /OT

I haven't played it yet, but from what I have seen it's just features we've seen from previous maps. That's not necessarily a bad thing. the way I see it, as long as the map is fun to play and the objectives feel rewarding then i am not going to throw any hate towards it. I am not going to lie, I am currently in love with Shadows of Evil. The way I see it, pap on soe is no where near as difficult or tedious as people make it out to be(you can open it by round 5 or round 6 without doing any of the special tricks, such as zombie duplicating.)
The only part of Der Eisendrache I wasn't happy about seeing was seeing that Electric Cherry wasn't physically on the map. That perk really needs a proper jingle, and not just the motd stinger.

I haven't played it yet, but from what I have seen it's just features we've seen from previous maps. That's not necessarily a bad thing. the way I see it, as long as the map is fun to play and the objectives feel rewarding then i am not going to throw any hate towards it. I am not going to lie, I am currently in love with Shadows of Evil. The way I see it, pap on soe is no where near as difficult or tedious as people make it out to be(you can open it by round 5 or round 6 without doing any of the special tricks, such as zombie duplicating.)
The only part of Der Eisendrache I wasn't happy about seeing was seeing that Electric Cherry wasn't physically on the map. That perk really needs a proper jingle, and not just the motd stinger.

I hate it when people say this. Sure you can open it on round 1 if you do things perfectly. But that doesn't change the fact it takes like 30 mins. You could easily get to round 20 on The Giant in the same time.

I hate it when people say this. Sure you can open it on round 1 if you do things perfectly. But that doesn't change the fact it takes like 30 mins. You could easily get to round 20 on The Giant in the same time.

True. I guess something that bugs me about pack-a-punch in general in this game, is people want to open it asap, them pap their guns immediately. The reason this bothers me is like in bo2 we have double tap 2.0, which will greatly increases the amount of time your weapon is effective on the hordes. That perk can make it so a weapon is useful until round 25 or even round 35 without pack-a-punching it.

Damn. I honestly love difficult maps. I don't have experience playing this one yet, because I'm an Xbone user, but I can't wait for it to come out. Difficulty is what makes these maps fun to play, and the challenge is even more fun when you play with your friends, because it can either make it easier or harder. This is just my opinion though.

I really enjoyed a zombie map without morgwas, parasites, and R.A.P.S. It is easier than Shadows of Evil in my POV. It's fun and unique. Just wish I'm good enough to actually do the EE.

you should have seen it on ps3 lol