I saw that too, pretty messed up. What exactly do they have against yote anyway?

He had the audacity to play their maps and promote custom zombies.

Talk about biting the hand that fed you...

He had the audacity to play their maps and promote custom zombies.

Talk about biting the hand that fed you...

wow...

He had the audacity to play their maps and promote custom zombies.

To a point, yes. But from what I've heard its more about him not giving credit to the people who make the maps he "promotes" and or earning money off of what other people make for free than it is him simply playing the maps. mind you, this is what I HEARD, i have no idea if this is true or not.

Personally i have to agree, it isn't right to not give proper credit to people who spend weeks if not months making something for free.

But does that give anyone the right to spit on someones grave? Hell no it doesn't.

Personally i have to agree, it isn't right to not give proper credit to people who spend weeks if not months making something for free.

But does that give anyone the right to spit on someones grave? Hell no it doesn't.

Most mappers these days appreciate the fact that Youtubers are playing their maps at all. I doubt ANYONE who had their map feature on his channel was pissed about it, so that is a subject that is down to the mapper themselves.

The people posting these comments are non relevant to the community, as Trem said. They are nobodies in this community. ZM Nutcase and ZM Earth are non mappers, non scripter and pretty much non anything.

Just a couple of tubes who have X amount of posts on a forum who think their post count and reputation makes them something special.

Comments made by BOTH of them are irrelevant. They do NOTHING for this community but then choose to discredit someone who does!?!

It is up to the mapper to decide if they are getting a disservice... not them! They all, as a collective should be ashamed of themselves. I am disgusted by the comments. There is no need for it.

They can feel however they want about Yote, NGT and anyone else who posts custom maps, but to make it public shows just how sad and pathetic those individuals are.

Again... FOR SHAME!

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Just to note, I sent ZM the image on their FB page and asked for a response. I was given this response, and then got my own message removed and blocked from their FB site just for good measure.

Most mappers these days appreciate the fact that Youtubers are playing their maps at all. I doubt ANYONE who had their map feature on his channel was pissed about it, so that is a subject that is down to the mapper themselves.

No it isn't, Mappers have absolutely no legal rights regarding custom maps. People like pretending that they actually own the map that they create when they actually don't. In short, mappers only have the right of "assembly", putting together assets that are created by either Treyarch or IW or by the custom community. In no way can a mapper prevent someone from monetizing what they have "assembled".

The people posting these comments are non relevant to the community, as Trem said. They are nobodies in this community. ZM Nutcase and ZM Earth are non mappers, non scripter and pretty much non anything.

I have no idea about anyone else, but I know that Earth has made and released a few small custom maps, and from time to time, helps newbies fix issues that they have (though most of the time he just trolls them).

It is up to the mapper to decide if they are getting a disservice... not them! They all, as a collective should be ashamed of themselves. I am disgusted by the comments. There is no need for it.

Again, people have complained about their maps being monetized. Most people don't mind it, but for others it's a big deal. Their right to be angry is as legitimate as any other.

Just to note, I sent ZM the image on their FB page and asked for a response. I was given this response, and then got my own message removed and blocked from their FB site just for good measure.

Now your just going to cause more drama than whats already been done.

You are entitled to your opinion, but I still think you are wrong. The majority of mappers praise guys like Yote and Spider for showing their maps, so unless you can give examples of people actually being pissed about their work being plagiarized, I am sticking with my opinion.

ZM Earth is a tool as far as I am concerned, and I know I have back up on this one. I have saw him slam individuals for bashing people who slate others for asking for stock perks constantly, only to then slam timelordalex for asking for Mule Kick repeatedly in maps.

How can you defend people asking for stock them slam someone who asks for more than stock!?! It is a Hypocritical view!

Either way, I am done talking about the trash guys who think they run ZM, and the idiots who actually do. My point is that the hierarchy who actually DO run that site allow such filth to be posted on their site, and it is beyond disgusting.

If you feel they are good people, that is fine. I think they trash, and I also think they have proved that point already!

ZM Earth is a tool as far as I am concerned, and I know I have back up on this one. I have saw him slam individuals for bashing people who slate others for asking for stock perks constantly, only to then slam timelordalex for asking for Mule Kick repeatedly in maps.

I'm not defending ZM. I agree with you entirely. They shouldn't be doing what they are/have said. However, I don't see why anyone needs to cause more drama than whats already been done.

 on the topic of the mule kick: I've been wondering for a long time now if having Black Ops perks in maps is some kind of new "standard" that everyone has to follow, and apparently it is, otherwise people wouldn't be getting in your face about it as if you committed a crime.

Alright maybe they don't, but really why would you want them in your map anyway? they aren't even fully accurate with the originals, and most people don't even bother adding the light FX onto the perk machine to make them looks like the real ones.

on the topic of the mule kick: I've been wondering for a long time now if having Black Ops perks in maps is some kind of new "standard" that everyone has to follow, and apparently it is, otherwise people wouldn't be getting in your face about it as if you committed a crime.

Personally, I feel stock map and perks are very boring nowadays and it takes a very special map to pull it off.

I also don't get why people constantly ask for stock perk versions of certain maps when there is nothing stopping them buying only the stock perks on the map. Either way, it does a mapper no harm in adding more perks, and I am sure the majority of custom players would prefer to see more.

This started to get a bit off topic and I think it's time to lock the thread. If anyone disagrees with this feel free to send me a PM.

Thank you.