So it is now very likely that we are getting mod tools, but now i have another fear: they will be extremely limited, like far cry 4 where we wont be able to script nearly as much or add custom weapons, or even change bo3 weapons.

Our maps will have all sorts of new limits with the amount of access to assets we will have, or maybe we wont even get radiant, we might get some dumbed down version that's just lets you draw a few boxes and place a few models.

why you say that smasher    i know  we will get the dumb down version of radiant but waw we can make more then boxes

I think we're ignoring a fact still here

Yes the bo1 tools were never fully released due to be a commercial failure

But "both" of the previous tools ( cod 4 / 5 ) were "fully" released, and black ops 1 is not as limited as people think

We have no evidence whatsoever to support a "dumbed down" version and even less reason to believe the guns will be untouchable - the ONLY thing they said is we will be able to make "maps mods game modes and more" - I really don't get why that makes people think unable to edit and unable to map?

I'll say what I always say, there's no point debating it now coz we will just get the usual 2 sides - 1 absolutely convinced it'll be shit and the other convinced it'll be the best thing since a lady touched my balls

Lol