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Title: Brexit
Post by: daedra descent on June 24, 2016, 07:07:50 am
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32810887 (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32810887)


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/british-sterling-brexit_us_576cb0cbe4b0dbb1bbba224b (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/british-sterling-brexit_us_576cb0cbe4b0dbb1bbba224b)



That actually just happened.  :o


TL;DR: The UK just voted to leave the EU, shocking the entire world. Global markets are in complete chaos as people jump to "safe" investments.

Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Harry Bo21 on June 24, 2016, 07:37:40 am
I never voted, would have but was working ( ironically for the mk "elections" team lol )

I would have voted leave, my wife and entire family voted leave to

Mr Cameron has also resigned as prime minister

Now to see what the future holds

Ps - I get to keep my Hoover now, screw you EU lol
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: daedra descent on June 24, 2016, 08:06:35 am
I never voted, would have but was working ( ironically for the mk "elections" team lol )

I would have voted leave, my wife and entire family voted leave to

Mr Cameron has also resigned as prime minister

Now to see what the future holds

Ps - I get to keep my Hoover now, screw you EU lol


Short term it's going to hurt. U.S. hasn't even been hit yet and that will have affects rippling affects of its own for sure.


long term however... well, I don't know much about the EU, but from what I've heard the UK can still make agreements with the EU such as allowing free trade and travel. If that's the case and it does actually happen, I don't see this being a real loss for the UK.






Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: smasher248 on June 24, 2016, 08:42:49 am
defiantly an interesting result :P
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Harry Bo21 on June 24, 2016, 08:44:42 am

Short term it's going to hurt. U.S. hasn't even been hit yet and that will have affects rippling affects of its own for sure.


long term however... well, I don't know much about the EU, but from what I've heard the UK can still make agreements with the EU such as allowing free trade and travel. If that's the case and it does actually happen, I don't see this being a real loss for the UK.
yea uk was fine before the eu and will be again

W might still be part of the EUA whatever that is anyway

It'll all settle eventually, then we have the Scotland thing to deal with
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: smasher248 on June 24, 2016, 08:54:43 am
yea uk was fine before the eu and will be again

W might still be part of the EUA whatever that is anyway

It'll all settle eventually, then we have the Scotland thing to deal with

yup, this is gonna spark another Scottish referendum
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Harry Bo21 on June 24, 2016, 09:33:31 am
Yea defo will

Scotland majority voted in, so are now saying have been dragged out

My city turns out was fairly divided

49 / 51 %
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: DeathBringerZen on June 24, 2016, 10:26:18 am
yup, this is gonna spark another Scottish referendum

As disappointed in the result as I am (being a remain voter) this will now kick start a campaign for a second independent referendum for Scotland and one I would expect us to win this time too so although a negative result it has positives as well.

Still a disappointing result nonetheless though.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Koan on June 24, 2016, 04:31:58 pm

We are royally fucked.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: MAK911 on June 24, 2016, 05:15:52 pm
  • Trump supporters are congratulating the Leave voters

We are royally fucked.
I always feel a little happy to know there's morons on both sides of the pond :D
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: daedra descent on June 24, 2016, 05:40:39 pm
  • A second Scottish independence referendum is now inevitable, and looks likely they'll vote to separate
  • Farage takes back the notion that we can spend an extra £350m on the health service, not even an hour after the result
  • France overtakes UK as world's 5th largest economy after vote
  • Cameron resigns, Boris Johnson of all people is the early favourite to win new leadership vote
  • Northern Irish party Sinn Fein calls for a vote on a united Ireland
  • "What is the EU?" trends in Google searches in the UK after result
  • Many companies and corporations who get EU funding have already begun to lay off employees and move business elsewhere
  • Young people aged 18-24, of which 75% voted Remain, have to deal with a future they don't want, decided by the older generation
  • Trump supporters are congratulating the Leave voters
We are royally fucked.

I really don't understand why people are making this out to be the end of the world... the UK still has about 2 years in the EU(or even longer). The UK can still maybe hammer out a deal that would give them the benefits of being a EU member without all of the bullshit. It's already stupidly complicated, so why not make it more so?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O37yJBFRrfg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O37yJBFRrfg)

Damn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ9JLpnF13A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ9JLpnF13A)


Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: DeathBringerZen on June 24, 2016, 05:54:30 pm
The UK can still maybe hammer out a deal that would give them the benefits of being a EU member without all of the bullshit. It's already stupidly complicated, so why not make it more so?

Yep, there is already talk of EU leaders making the UK an official partner of the European Union so we would keep some of the same benefits and perks without having to have any of our rules and regulations pass through the EU.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: ProRevenge on June 24, 2016, 06:01:18 pm
Being a Remain voter, I am disappointed, my area had a 70% Leave vote, which I expected no less.
Most people I know voted on the grounds of "it will stop immigrants coming over", thinking all the EU does is allow free movement, when the union is about a hell of a lot more, especially economically
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: steviewonder87 on June 24, 2016, 06:14:13 pm
  • A second Scottish independence referendum is now inevitable, and looks likely they'll vote to separate
  • Farage takes back the notion that we can spend an extra £350m on the health service, not even an hour after the result
  • France overtakes UK as world's 5th largest economy after vote
  • Cameron resigns, Boris Johnson of all people is the early favourite to win new leadership vote
  • Northern Irish party Sinn Fein calls for a vote on a united Ireland
  • "What is the EU?" trends in Google searches in the UK after result
  • Many companies and corporations who get EU funding have already begun to lay off employees and move business elsewhere
  • Young people aged 18-24, of which 75% voted Remain, have to deal with a future they don't want, decided by the older generation
  • Trump supporters are congratulating the Leave voters

We are royally fucked.

You forgot to add that the pound is sinking like the Titanic and there are now fresh calls for a united Ireland as they fear they will enforce tight border controls between north and south, so that's gonna be fun too. I love how it's mainly people over 50 who voted leave and young people voting remain, this graphic illustrates it nicely -

(https://i.gyazo.com/8466ca7c6b0ba9a0597239597fc16ed2.png)

A sad day, I am thoroughly gutted and ashamed of how gullible and easily led the British public really is. Trump will be US President soon, the world is truly going to shit. Can I vote leave Earth because I want to get off.

Edit: Oh you did mention Ireland, sorry I missed that.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: MAK911 on June 24, 2016, 06:26:11 pm
You forgot to add that the pound is sinking like the Titanic and there are now fresh calls for a united Ireland as they fear they will enforce tight border controls between north and south, so that's gonna be fun too. I love how it's mainly people over 50 who voted leave and young people voting remain, this graphic illustrates it nicely -

(https://i.gyazo.com/8466ca7c6b0ba9a0597239597fc16ed2.png)

A sad day, I am thoroughly gutted and ashamed of how gullible and easily led the British public really is. Trump will be US President soon, the world is truly going to shit. Can I vote leave Earth because I want to get off.

Edit: Oh you did mention Ireland, sorry I missed that.
Either there are more old people than young people or that graph is somehow wrong because number crunching that thing came out to 48% Leave and 52% Stay (roughly). Imagine if there were a conspiracy that more people did vote Remain, but someone smudged the numbers to make Britain leave.

Also, they'll be doing Mars colonization soon so save me a seat next to you, stevie  :)
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: steviewonder87 on June 24, 2016, 06:39:53 pm
Either there are more old people than young people or that graph is somehow wrong because number crunching that thing came out to 48% Leave and 52% Stay (roughly). Imagine if there were a conspiracy that more people did vote Remain, but someone smudged the numbers to make Britain leave.

Also, they'll be doing Mars colonization soon so save me a seat next to you, stevie  :)

There were more old people voting than young people. The old fucks came out in force for this one.

  • Cameron resigns, Boris Johnson of all people is the early favourite to win new leadership vote

Yes! Can't wait for that, sick of these immigrants, good old Boris will sort it out, he knows true all-English values, after all I saw him eating Cornish pasties and drinking Yorkshire ale on his campaign tour.

Wait what's that? He wasn't even born in England and his real name is Boris Kemal?!

No-one tell Farage. :-X
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Ray1235 on June 24, 2016, 07:06:57 pm
Sorry if I offended you but
Translation: Britain's new national anthem
(http://i1.kwejk.pl/k/obrazki/2016/06/0371214837d7478b5b58c39aa4bde4cf.jpg)
Being serious though, if I was a UK citizen, I would've voted Remain as leaving will cause (and has already caused) a huge disaster in the market, etc.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: daedra descent on June 24, 2016, 10:11:59 pm
There were more old people voting than young people. The old fucks came out in force for this one.

Yes! Can't wait for that, sick of these immigrants, good old Boris will sort it out, he knows true all-English values, after all I saw him eating Cornish pasties and drinking Yorkshire ale on his campaign tour.

Wait what's that? He wasn't even born in England and his real name is Boris Kemal?!

No-one tell Farage. :-X


The immigration/refugee issue is a huge deal though. I'm not one to advocate paranoia, but we've seen time and time again what kind of damage these extremists can do. Even if 3 extremists out of 10000 refugees was to get through whatever weak ass security measures they have in place, they would still be able to hurt/kill a lot of people.


Not all of the "refugees" even look like refugees. A good portion of them look and act like this is all somekind of vacation or something and being total hooligans meanwhile Germany is actively covering up sexual assaults by these "refugees".


Yeah, I know. I'm a total islamaphobe.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: steviewonder87 on June 24, 2016, 10:46:21 pm

The immigration/refugee issue is a huge deal though. I'm not one to advocate paranoia, but we've seen time and time again what kind of damage these extremists can do. Even if 3 extremists out of 10000 refugees was to get through whatever weak ass security measures they have in place, they would still be able to hurt/kill a lot of people.


Not all of the "refugees" even look like refugees. A good portion of them look and act like this is all somekind of vacation or something and being total hooligans meanwhile Germany is actively covering up sexual assaults by these "refugees".


Yeah, I know. I'm a total islamaphobe.

Yeh you're right, for example the immigrants who did 7/7. Oh no they were British born. Or the guy who did the Florida shootings, no American born. 9/11, well we all know who did that :troll:

I guess Trump is right, the only solution is just to ban all Muslims from everywhere until we figure out what the hell is going on. ;D And let me guess, you're Trump supporter right DD?


Out of interest, how many Syrian migrants have you actually seen? Like with your own eyes. Not on Fox News or the Daily Mail. That question goes out to everyone btw. I'm going to guess that the average number is somewhere between 0 and 1.

But yeh, Britain First! As the guy who murdered Jo Cox so eloquently put it. But he wasn't Muslim so that wasn't terrorism, that was just 'mental illness'. ::)
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Ray1235 on June 24, 2016, 10:50:35 pm
I'll be completely honest, I haven't ever seen or recognized a Syrian refugee and I've encountered only 2 black people in my local enviroment (racism unintended)
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Koan on June 24, 2016, 11:38:15 pm
The immigration/refugee issue is a huge deal though. I'm not one to advocate paranoia, but we've seen time and time again what kind of damage these extremists can do. Even if 3 extremists out of 10000 refugees was to get through whatever weak ass security measures they have in place, they would still be able to hurt/kill a lot of people.

So denying those other 9,997 people a safe home is the way to reduce extremism?
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: steviewonder87 on June 24, 2016, 11:47:11 pm
So denying those other 9,997 people a safe home is the way to reduce extremism?

Ironically this is exactly what groups like ISIS want. But anywho. Go Trump!
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: MAK911 on June 25, 2016, 12:37:31 am
Yeh you're right, for example the immigrants who did 7/7. Oh no they were British born. Or the guy who did the Florida shootings, no American born. 9/11, well we all know who did that :troll:
(http://i.imgur.com/KlF2fku.gif)
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: treminaor on June 25, 2016, 02:02:24 am
(http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/4334605.jpg)
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: steviewonder87 on June 25, 2016, 02:22:21 am
(http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/4334605.jpg)

Stay out of this this doesn't concern you, you stupid burger eating Trump supporting gun toting Yankee redneck son of a - bloody 'Muricans. >:(
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: treminaor on June 25, 2016, 02:24:11 am
Stay out of this this doesn't concern you, you stupid burger eating Trump supporting gun toting Yankee redneck son of a - bloody 'Muricans. >:(
Sorry I'm too busy being afraid of radical islamic terrorism and deleted emails to pay attention to what's going on over there in european states of america
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: steviewonder87 on June 25, 2016, 02:30:59 am
Sorry I'm too busy being afraid of radical islamic terrorism and deleted emails to pay attention to what's going on over there in european states of america

Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: treminaor on June 25, 2016, 02:33:29 am
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i hate my country.

aw fuck i'm on a list now.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: daedra descent on June 25, 2016, 02:50:06 am
lmao, a bunch of left-wingers cirlejerking about how honest and trustworthy they are compared to the right wing media.

Its not like there are many reported instances of the German government censoring right wing ant-immigration views and promoting pro-immigration meanwhile women are getting assaulted in the streets that go unreported on. Not at all.

Its not like there aren't online videos of the cologne incident where there where many first hand accounts of secual assault.

Nah, nothing like that. The "Refugees"/"Immigrants" are just people who need help.


Edit: Had a better response but the post formatting died. Goddamn it.

Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Koan on June 25, 2016, 02:54:56 am
Feast your eyes on this shit.


Never mind the future of his children, gotta stop those fuckin' muslims at any cost.

Why the fuck did they put such an important decision in the hands of ordinary people? What the fuck do I know, let alone the wankstain in the video? Oh yeah, to win votes.

I fucking hate humans.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: steviewonder87 on June 25, 2016, 02:58:46 am
Its not like there are many reported instances of the German government censoring right wing ant-immigration views

Yeh I really hope Germany starts promoting more right-wing nationalist views, turned out so well last time...;D

And you didn't answer me, you're a Trump supporter right? I know you are (obviously) but I just want to hear you admit it.

To be fair though you know there were plenty of Americans that probably answered that question without a problem. Some of the best systems do come from the US. I spent some time in South America in Chile, and all of the higher education had to be taught in English because it was all from the States. Specifically the sciences because details are lost in translation.

America is interesting because around 10% of the entire country is bright and the remainder of people are completely retarded.

Oh of course there are a lot of bright Americans, just like there are a lot of bright British people, it's just a shame that democracy is kinda flawed when ~50% of the country has double digit IQs. :-\ I really wish there was an IQ minimum required before people could vote (not saying all Leave/Trump supporters are mentally challenged btw), I think the outcome may very well have been drastically different. Oh well, I guess that would be 'discriminatory' or some shit. ::)
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: treminaor on June 25, 2016, 03:01:15 am
To be fair though you know there were plenty of Americans that probably answered that question without a problem. Some of the best systems do come from the US. I spent some time in South America in Chile, and all of the higher education had to be taught in English because it was all from the States. Specifically the sciences because details are lost in translation.

America is interesting because around 10% of the entire country is bright and the remainder of people are completely retarded.
The problem is that the remaining 90% of retards are the ones causing the daily clusterfuck of politics and misinformation. our mainstream news outlets are basically glorified WWE Smackdown scripted scenes. Vince Mcmahon might as well be reporting the news right now.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: daedra descent on June 25, 2016, 03:08:41 am
To be fair though you know there were plenty of Americans that probably answered that question without a problem. Some of the best systems do come from the US. I spent some time in South America in Chile, and all of the higher education had to be taught in English because it was all from the States. Specifically the sciences because details are lost in translation.

America is interesting because around 10% of the entire country is bright and the remainder of people are completely retarded.


Kind of like the whole Edward Snowden documents thing. Some news site went around and asked people on Times square if they knew who he was or what he did and they where completely clueless.


Feast your eyes on this shit.

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Never mind the future of his children, gotta stop those fuckin' muslims at any cost.

Why the fuck did they put such an important decision in the hands of ordinary people? What the fuck do I know, let alone the wankstain in the video? Oh yeah, to win votes.

I fucking hate humans.


...the future of children who could be bombed at any moment because of the flood of immigrants and no proper background checks(as if was even possible to begin with).


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Yeh I really hope Germany starts promoting more right-wing nationalist views, turned out so well last time..



Right wing then = Right wing now. -SteviewWonder87.


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And you didn't answer me, you're a Trump supporter right? I know you are (obviously) but I just want to hear you admit it.


I'm stuck between a corrupt politician who uses the vagina card so much you'd think it'd be a card in Magic the Gathering and a dumbass who's honest (in his own Edit: insane little world), so of course I'm voting for Trump. I don't have much of a choice.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: steviewonder87 on June 25, 2016, 03:18:01 am
...the future of children who could be bombed at any moment because of the flood of immigrants and no proper background checks(as if was even possible to begin with).

His kids are far, far more likely to now be bombed by the IRA than Islamic extremists lol. Where the fuck even was that? Grimsby or something, yeh prime target for terrorism that. ;D


Right wing then = Right wing now. -SteviewWonder87.

You're stupid. And you spelt my name wrong stupid.

of course I'm voting for Trump.

Just when I thought it wasn't possible to dislike you any more ;D

Stay awesome DD.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Koan on June 25, 2016, 03:18:19 am
...the future of children who could be bombed at any moment because of the flood of immigrants and no proper background checks(as if was even possible to begin with).

...you're not actually suggesting that immigration = terrorism, are you? .......nope, looks like you are

I'm stuck between a corrupt politician who uses the vagina card so much you'd think it'd be a card in Magic the Gathering and a dumbass who's honest (in his own Edit: insane little world), so of course I'm voting for Trump.

You know there are OTHER options, right? You could vote Green or Libertarian or for LITERALLY ANYBODY ELSE other than that retarded bigot? And holy shit, Trump is just as dishonest as Hillary, you've got to be a fool not to see that.

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Kind of like the whole Edward Snowden documents thing. Some news site went around and asked people on Times square if they knew who he was or what he did and they where completely clueless.

You know Trump's views on Snowden, right? When he mentioned that "execution is still a thing"? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/24/donald-trump-edward-snowden-execution_n_3489944.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/24/donald-trump-edward-snowden-execution_n_3489944.html)
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: daedra descent on June 25, 2016, 03:33:39 am
His kids are far, far more likely to now be bombed by the IRA than Islamic extremists lol. Where the fuck even was that? Grimsby or something, yeh prime target for terrorism that. ;D


Yeah, his children are going to be in one town for the rest of their lives(its possible, i guess?).


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You're stupid. And you spelt my name wrong stupid.


...and your a left wing idiot who can't see the negative repercussion of letting hundreds of thousands of immigrants into an entire continent with little checks in place.


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..you're not actually suggesting that immigration = terrorism, are you? .......nope, looks like you are


Your right. That could never be the case. All of the immigrants/refugees are getting proper background checks(with 100% accuracy) and no terrorists are getting threw.


Yeah, hell no. Maybe in your own perfect left-wing world, but not this one.


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You know there are OTHER options, right? You could vote Green or Libertarian or for LITERALLY ANYBODY ELSE other than that retarded bigot? And holy shit, Trump is just as dishonest as Hillary, you've got to be a fool not to see that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L_Wmeg7OTU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L_Wmeg7OTU)

>says Trump is dishonest
>links to a dishonest/SJW left winger

lmao.


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You know Trump's views on Snowden, right? When he mentioned that "execution is still a thing"? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/24/donald-trump-edward-snowden-execution_n_3489944.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/24/donald-trump-edward-snowden-execution_n_3489944.html)


I'm voting for him because he'll probably screw things up the least. Congress will just reject any proposals he makes(being anti-establishment) and we wait for the next election. Atleast that's the hope.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Koan on June 25, 2016, 03:51:58 am
...and your a left wing idiot who can't see the negative repercussion of letting hundreds of thousands of immigrants into an entire continent with little checks in place.

Yes because every single person with a left-wing ideology is an idiot.

Dismissing the views of an enormous group of people because they don't agree with you. Definitely a Trump supporter.

Your right. That could never be the case. All of the immigrants/refugees are getting proper background checks(with 100% accuracy) and no terrorists are getting threw.


Yeah, hell no. Maybe in your own perfect left-wing world, but not this one.

Again with the left-wing dismissals, fucking hell. Believe it or not, I thought better of you.

Being so concerned about terrorism that you would refuse a safe home for the 99.9% of people that aren't batshit insane, instead thinking they should stay in their own war-torn land. That's what I call giving in to terrorists, not protecting people from them. Isn't it funny how many of the most prolific terror attacks in recent decades have been by citizens of the country attacked? What a coincidence!

And for the record, I'm not left-wing, so don't get the idea that I'm a tumblrina who needs a 24/7 safe space.

(https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=0.38&soc=-7.23)
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: steviewonder87 on June 25, 2016, 04:04:21 am

Yeah, his children are going to be in one town for the rest of their lives(its possible, i guess?).


I would bet everything I own that the man in the video has lived in that town his whole life. But you missed the point anyway, of course.

...and your a left wing idiot who can't see the negative repercussion of letting hundreds of thousands of immigrants into an entire continent with little checks in place.

I stopped reading your sentence at your incorrect use of 'your', (sorry force of habit, I've learnt that what usually follows is stupid) despite quoting me using the correct use. Hold on I'll read it now.


Yeh it was stupid.

Your right. That could never be the case. All of the immigrants/refugees are getting proper background checks(with 100% accuracy) and no terrorists are getting threw.

Guess it wasn't even a typo and you actually don't know the difference between 'you're' and 'your'.

And 'threw' and 'through' apparently.

And as an American I'd be far more worried about some kid walking into your college (highschool? not sure how old you are tbh) with a legally bought AR-15 and shooting the place up because some girl wouldn't go out with him than a crazy Muslim terrorist.

And for an American who is so xenophobic/racist you have a very odd obsession with Soviet Russia, but I probably would rather not know the reason behind that. :-\
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L_Wmeg7OTU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L_Wmeg7OTU)

>says Trump is dishonest
>links to a dishonest/SJW left winger

lmao.

You obviously didn't watch it. And please stop saying 'left winger' every other sentence; the level of cringe is making me queasy.

I'm voting for him because he'll probably screw things up the least.

Sounds like a solid plan from an intelligent voter.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: daedra descent on June 25, 2016, 04:15:13 am
Yes because every single person with a left-wing ideology is an idiot.

Dismissing the views of an enormous group of people because they don't agree with you. Definitely a Trump supporter.

Again with the left-wing dismissals, fucking hell. Believe it or not, I thought better of you.


lmao, the irony:


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Again with the left-wing dismissals, fucking hell. Believe it or not, I thought better of you.



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Being so concerned about terrorism that you would refuse a safe home for the 99.9% of people that aren't batshit insane, instead thinking they should stay in their own war-torn land. That's what I call giving in to terrorists, not protecting people from them. Isn't it funny how many of the most prolific terror attacks in recent decades have been by citizens of the country attacked? What a coincidence!


You and everyone else (should) know damn well what they can do in small numbers. 3 gun man can kill or injure 50+ people. Of course, there is no way to *completely* stop terrorism, but you can minimize the chances and stopping immigrants is a way to do that, especially when we know for a fact that they hide among them. Some terrorists go into other countries to recruit new members as well.

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And for the record, I'm not left-wing, so don't get the idea that I'm a tumblrina who needs a 24/7 safe space.

(https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=0.38&soc=-7.23) (https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=0.38&soc=-7.23)


Wel... you linked to a tumblrina, lol.


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I would bet everything I own that the man in the video has lived in that town his whole life. But you missed the point anyway, of course.


What point? That everyone in the UK apparently lives in remote areas on a island? Yeah, sorry for not getting it.


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Guess it wasn't even a typo and you actually don't know the difference between 'you're' and 'your'.


lmao, this from the guy who couldn't tell the legal difference between a World at War mod and an application made in Java using a library released under MIT license. Too funny.


also its the internet, not a professional report.


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And as an American I'd be far more worried about some kid walking into your college (highschool? not sure how old you are tbh) with a legally bought AR-15 and shooting the place up because some girl wouldn't go out with him than a crazy Muslim terrorist.


Both are important issues.


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And for an American who is so xenophobic/racist you have a very odd obsession with Soviet Russia, but I probably would rather not know the reason behind that. :/
 


You are Xenophobic/racist if you don't want immigrants who have terrorists hiding among them entering your country. -Steviewonder87

Edit: love left wingers.

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Sounds like a solid plan from an intelligent voter.


No real choice at this point besides not vote at all.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: steviewonder87 on June 25, 2016, 04:21:10 am
I'm stupid and racist and I support Trump because he is stupid and racist - daedra descent

This made up quote stuff is fun. :)


Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Koan on June 25, 2016, 04:22:28 am
(fucking everything daedra says)

I've had enough stupid for today. Enjoy your naïveté.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: MAK911 on June 25, 2016, 04:55:43 am
You and everyone else (should) know damn well what they can do in small numbers. 3 gun man can kill or injure 50+ people. Of course, there is no way to *completely* stop terrorism, but you can minimize the chances and stopping immigrants is a way to do that, especially when we know for a fact that they hide among them. Some terrorists go into other countries to recruit new members as well.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/12/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting/ (http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/12/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting/)
A single fucking guy can do that. With legally obtained weapons. When he was born in the States.

Do you seriously believe that stopping immigrants would do absolutely shit when the problem is with the country's retarded-ass legislation that isn't even necessary anymore? England sorted that shit out years ago which is why they haven't had a terrorist attack in 10 fucking YEARS. The shit is clearly handled much better over there which is why them having immigrants would be no problem. America getting immigrants would be a problem because we got a fucking hard on for our pew pews and no one wants to just say,"Hey, that's causing a problem. Let's get rid of that." It would maybe help if we didn't vote in a guy who doesn't know the word,"Negotiate," and just eggs the terrorist organizations on.

(https://i.imgflip.com/16exjg.jpg)

Also, I liked that test :D
(https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-7.0&soc=-6.62)
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Ray1235 on June 25, 2016, 10:22:38 am
Taking the political test.... decisions decisions, why is there no neutral option?
(http://image.prntscr.com/image/db1471492b1744c2b85a3793f5dc706b.png)
EDIT: Here is my result:
(https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-4.0&soc=-3.08)
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Scobalula on June 25, 2016, 12:01:15 pm
Taking the political test.... decisions decisions, why is there no neutral option?
(http://image.prntscr.com/image/db1471492b1744c2b85a3793f5dc706b.png)
EDIT: Here is my result:
(https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-4.0&soc=-3.08)

Close. ^^

(http://image.prntscr.com/image/d127413f81054a4abee5ac37a6df3acd.jpeg)
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Delta on June 25, 2016, 01:41:53 pm
I'm tempted to lock this thread.

The Brexit was a sad thing for the European Union and what it stands for. Don't make this worse than it is already by making this thread into a clusterbomb.

Political discussions are just wrong on ugx-mods.com - clearly everyone seems to have a different opinion and tries to win - whatever this is here about.

It started about the Brexit, which is about the EU & UK, and is now a cocktail of poison + some idiotic trolling as usual.

It's great that people are interested in politics (although this here is just a small part and again one of the extreme ones) but UGX-Mods.com is just not the place for this kind of discussion.

After reading these 3 pages, I'm shocked but not surprised what I had to read and understand why we have things like the Brexit currently.

And please @deadra descent:
You can say whatever you want. But I would be very carefully what you consider as a fact.
You don't live in Germany and you obviously have no clue what political situation we have in Germany.
Politics in the United States and Germany are completely different, and I'm really worried about you when you really belive what you wrote earlier.
Please make yourself familiar with our (German) History. Go visit Germany and talk to us (Germans).
Go visit some demonstration of LEGIDA, PEGIDA and so on. Go visit some demonstrations against capitalism, CETA and TTIP.
Get yourself some real information and not something from an internet source - because it seems to me you are clearly not well informed.
Oh and there is more than just left and right - in Germany is well ;)

I really don't want to close this, because then I have to read again that we silence people and are XYZ and ABC and all this drama.
But may I remind you that the internet is large - and that this site is about Gaming, Modding, CoD, ...
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Ray1235 on June 25, 2016, 02:05:19 pm
I'm tempted to lock this thread.

The Brexit was a sad thing for the European Union and what it stands for. Don't make this worse than it is already by making this thread into a clusterbomb.

Political discussions are just wrong on ugx-mods.com - clearly everyone seems to have a different opinion and tries to win - whatever this is here about.

It started about the Brexit, which is about the EU & UK, and is now a cocktail of poison + some idiotic trolling as usual.

It's great that people are interested in politics (although this here is just a small part and again one of the extreme ones) but UGX-Mods.com is just not the place for this kind of discussion.

After reading these 3 pages, I'm shocked but not surprised what I had to read and understand why we have things like the Brexit currently.

And please @deadra descent:
You can say whatever you want. But I would be very carefully what you consider as a fact.
You don't live in Germany and you obviously have no clue what political situation we have in Germany.
Politics in the United States and Germany are completely different, and I'm really worried about you when you really belive what you wrote earlier.
Please make yourself familiar with our (German) History. Go visit Germany and talk to us (Germans).
Go visit some demonstration of LEGIDA, PEGIDA and so on. Go visit some demonstrations against capitalism, CETA and TTIP.
Get yourself some real information and not something from an internet source - because it seems to me you are clearly not well informed.
Oh and there is more than just left and right - in Germany is well ;)

I really don't want to close this, because then I have to read again that we silence people and are XYZ and ABC and all this drama.
But may I remind you that the internet is large - and that this site is about Gaming, Modding, CoD, ...
With all recent events, it was bound to happen, can't help that.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Harry Bo21 on June 25, 2016, 02:27:51 pm
It turned out just as I expected it to

Anyone who voted Brexit - regardless of why, are now branded "dumb, racist, bigot trump supporters"

Democracy is now also at fault for allowing older people to have a opinion

And us wanting to control immigration "ourselves" ( not stop immigration, which people cannot seem to fathom ) rather than being dictated to by another set of "unelected" officials

And completely ignore the hundreds of other repercussions of leaving the eu

Seriously there's hundreds of reasons to want out and not have to do with immigration at all, the pound will recover just like it always does and people will still be able to move / live here and move around the eu. We will open other trade opportunities and Infact may still be a member of the "EUA" so might even still be able to honour most current agreements

People need to realise it's not all about terrorism, immigration, money etc, there's a lot more to it

Unlike other countries the uk also has a crazy generous benefits system and the NHS - THIS is why we wanted different rules ( coz other places DO NOT have these ) and the EU refused every attempt at negotiating this

Stop with the instant jump to racism and people being dumb. They had their reasons, you had yours - EVERYONE had a right to vote. Even Brits living abroad - end of
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: HitmanVere on June 25, 2016, 03:26:53 pm
(http://image.prntscr.com/image/006624e9aaac4d149c768ea500e3ab3d.png)

Just going to drop this here and going to walk away, since Im not British or anyone who is actually involved :please:
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Harry Bo21 on June 25, 2016, 03:32:06 pm
Lol loads of world leaders commended our so called courage and said its necessary to make the EU leaders finally listen

And Wales hasn't said anything about leaving the uk, nor has Ireland nor are we trying to force them

The scots had their referendum, if they want another I'm sure they will get one

But to stay with us, by vote, then threaten to leave after the next decision says it all really
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: smasher248 on June 25, 2016, 04:10:37 pm
Lol loads of world leaders commended our so called courage and said its necessary to make the EU leaders finally listen

And Wales hasn't said anything about leaving the uk, nor has Ireland nor are we trying to force them

The scots had their referendum, if they want another I'm sure they will get one

But to stay with us, by vote, then threaten to leave after the next decision says it all really

i think the picture was just a joke harry, no need to take it so seriously, and seeing as 2/3 of Scotland wanted to stay, if we had another referendum(which we probably will) its going to be a lot diffrent, i for one am changing my vote to leave

also here is my political test result

(http://image.prntscr.com/image/e8a98e3af7a0425db9581173618f86c0.png)
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Harry Bo21 on June 25, 2016, 04:16:59 pm
exactly, voted to stay in the uk - till theres a decision made and you dont majority agree ( even tho our so called "united" kingdom majority does ), now you wanna leave
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: steviewonder87 on June 25, 2016, 04:59:41 pm
Taking the political test.... decisions decisions, why is there no neutral option?
(http://image.prntscr.com/image/db1471492b1744c2b85a3793f5dc706b.png)
EDIT: Here is my result:
(https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-4.0&soc=-3.08)

You didn't know what to put for that answer? Jesus fucking Christ Ray...:poker:

It turned out just as I expected it to

Anyone who voted Brexit - regardless of why, are now branded "dumb, racist, bigot trump supporters"

Democracy is now also at fault for allowing older people to have a opinion

And us wanting to control immigration "ourselves" ( not stop immigration, which people cannot seem to fathom ) rather than being dictated to by another set of "unelected" officials

And completely ignore the hundreds of other repercussions of leaving the eu

Seriously there's hundreds of reasons to want out and not have to do with immigration at all, the pound will recover just like it always does and people will still be able to move / live here and move around the eu. We will open other trade opportunities and Infact may still be a member of the "EUA" so might even still be able to honour most current agreements

People need to realise it's not all about terrorism, immigration, money etc, there's a lot more to it

Unlike other countries the uk also has a crazy generous benefits system and the NHS - THIS is why we wanted different rules ( coz other places DO NOT have these ) and the EU refused every attempt at negotiating this

Stop with the instant jump to racism and people being dumb. They had their reasons, you had yours - EVERYONE had a right to vote. Even Brits living abroad - end of

And for the record, if you voted Leave because you analysed the pros and cons and legitimately believed that leaving the EU was the best course of action for the UK based on socio-economic reasons and the like, then I have zero issue with that. Hell I can even respect that (Trump supporters however are a different kettle of fish and I have no respect whatsoever for anyone who votes for that utter bellend.)

However, if you voted Leave because you -


Then you are a moron.

Just to clarify, I'm using 'you' in the collective sense, not you personally Harry lol.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: MAK911 on June 25, 2016, 07:17:37 pm
(Trump supporters however are a different kettle of fish and I have no respect whatsoever for anyone who votes for that utter bellend.)
My parents are voting for him :poker:
As you can tell by my political compass, we've been having issues as of late.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: JR-Imagine on June 25, 2016, 08:31:01 pm
The amount of morons voting leave not having a single clue what the EU even represents is ridiculous. Google reported huge increases in searches for what the EU is and what would happen if the UK left the EU AFTER the god damn votes closed. And now a metric tonne of people wish they hadn't voted leave. I really question humanity's superiority a lot...

(https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-3.25&soc=-1.9)
Only thing that surprised me is me being more left-wing than right-wing apparently.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: DeathBringerZen on June 25, 2016, 09:06:50 pm
This pretty much sums it up for me...

(http://i.imgur.com/t51E4M8.jpg)

I never asked to be a part of a United Kingdom, and regardess of how the votes on the Independent referendum vote went the first time around, I voted YES to independance and will vote YES again if another referendum comes around.

The will of all 32 Scottish constituencies was to REMAIN within the EU which means the Scottish people were litterarly dragged out of the EU because of the majority of England. We voted to STAY within the EU and that was denied to us democratically, so yes, we SHOULD have another referendum for independance and I pray to God this time we vote correctly. I have nothing against England or the people who live there but this is my country and it should be in control of it's own destiny.

The Union means absolutely NOTHING to me!
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: steviewonder87 on June 25, 2016, 09:17:46 pm
This pretty much sums it up for me...
The Scottish are weird looking freaks? ;D
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: MAK911 on June 25, 2016, 09:28:37 pm
The Scottish are weird looking freaks? ;D
No. The Scottish are either
A.) the Illuminati
(http://67.media.tumblr.com/9a4184bb8acd717840db29c55bc406f7/tumblr_inline_nc66xnYxxq1t1w98a.png)
Or B.) Lemony Snicket
(http://img14.deviantart.net/7455/i/2015/069/a/f/lemony_snicket_eye_sanctuary_by_stallintheunicow73-d8ky28x.png)
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Koan on June 25, 2016, 09:41:28 pm
In the first referendum I wanted Scotland to stay, but if (or rather, when) they have a second vote I wholeheartedly wish for their independence. They've been screwed over.

This whole process has been a fucking mess.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Harry Bo21 on June 25, 2016, 11:27:11 pm
This pretty much sums it up for me...

(http://i.imgur.com/t51E4M8.jpg)

I never asked to be a part of a United Kingdom, and regardess of how the votes on the Independent referendum vote went the first time around, I voted YES to independance and will vote YES again if another referendum comes around.

The will of all 32 Scottish constituencies was to REMAIN within the EU which means the Scottish people were litterarly dragged out of the EU because of the majority of England. We voted to STAY within the EU and that was denied to us democratically, so yes, we SHOULD have another referendum for independance and I pray to God this time we vote correctly. I have nothing against England or the people who live there but this is my country and it should be in control of it's own destiny.

The Union means absolutely NOTHING to me!

no, you were "dragged out" by the majority of england, scotland, wales, ireland, gibralta and the rest of the common wealth countries


Quote
but this is my country and it should be in control of it's own destiny.

and this is the exact reason why we voted as such

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that was denied to us democratically

again, it was a democratic vote for all of the UK, so this is infact entirely false

it was "jointly" and "democratically" voted to leave. doesnt matter which or who was the "more in than out", the fact remains, it was a democratic vote accross the entire UK and commonwealth, the majority of that uk voted leave

if scotland dont like being part of the group they should have voted out before, not vote to stay in then stomp their feet when a "joint" decision is made that they dont like
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: DeathBringerZen on June 25, 2016, 11:30:54 pm
no, you were "dragged out" by the majority of england, scotland, wales, ireland, gibralta and the rest of the common wealth countries

Are you serious? I just explained in my comment that the 32 out of 32 constitutes of Scotland voted unanimously to remain in the EU so as a Country we were dragged out of the EU by a decision out with our own Country. What don't you get exactly?
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Harry Bo21 on June 25, 2016, 11:39:32 pm
yes im serious

scotland is part of the UK

they decided to be

that "UK" voted leave

Doesnt matter if "most" of scotland voted out, there was still a portion that didnt, just not the majority in each constitutecy. And scotland voted to remain part of the UK and thus part of the vote

so its literally, scotland didnt get what "it" alone wanted, so expects the entire common wealth to agree with it, coz we dont, demand independance again

if unwilling to agree to decisions by the "UK" scotland should have left "before" the vote -


and no you said they were dragged out by the majority of "england" - this is untrue - it was the entire common welath, dont just blame us thank you
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Koan on June 26, 2016, 12:47:42 am
no, you were "dragged out" by the majority of england, scotland, wales, ireland, gibralta and the rest of the common wealth countries

Those places are separate countries in their own right. And no, the commonwealth had nothing to do with this, that's not what the commonwealth is... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations)



if scotland dont like being part of the group they should have voted out before, not vote to stay in then stomp their feet when a "joint" decision is made that they dont like

http://www.bbc.com/news/politics/eu_referendum/results (http://www.bbc.com/news/politics/eu_referendum/results)

You cannot seriously say that Scotland, a country in its own right which voted to remain in the EU with a 62% majority, should have an extremely significant decision imposed upon them against their democratic will.

One of the main arguments for Scotland voting to remain in the UK was the EU membership. Now that's changed, and with the above results, Scotland should absolutely hold another referendum, given the dramatic change in conditions.

To effectively say "well you should've thought of that before" is dumbfoundingly asinine, how the fuck were they supposed to predict what would happen? The conditions have changed, and Scotland needs another vote.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Harry Bo21 on June 26, 2016, 01:37:12 am
Country in its own right or not it voted to be part of this democracy and thus "is" part of the "United" kingdom

It had its opportunity to seperate and chose not to

Nor did "every" Scott vote out, just as every English person didn't vote in

And the common wealth did vote there were just restrictions on how long they were out of the U.K. And if or not they live here now. Even Gibraltar did - I work "in" elections - common wealth citizens have just as much right to vote as some one from the mainland. I dealt with a ton of what are referred to as "other electors" who live abroad but we're still entitled to vote, and thus voted by postal or proxy

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/649517/EU-referendum-2016-Voting-Voters-Allowed-British-Irish-Commonwealth-Citizens-European (http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/649517/EU-referendum-2016-Voting-Voters-Allowed-British-Irish-Commonwealth-Citizens-European)

And like I said already, let them have their referendum to leave again. Fact remains if it hadn't been this - it would have been something else they disagree with that would make them leave

And that's also not what I said. I didn't say "should have thought of that before" - I said if they wanted to be excluded from decisions by the uk - they should have left the uk when that was a option

To say it's unfair when a uk wide decision is made cos your corner wasn't 100% in agreement is just as dumb - we will never all agree, and the other parts of the country were "just as" divided on the matter, as proven by the final count
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: DeathBringerZen on June 26, 2016, 02:25:14 am
Like I said already, let them have their referendum to leave again. Fact remains if it hadn't been this - it would have been something else they disagree with that would make them leave

Them? Their? They? Who are you referring to exactly? Scottish people? If so try being less ignorant next time. You're basing your argument on a bigoted and bias view point so I am done discussing this political matter with you, we will only come to an impasse.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Harry Bo21 on June 26, 2016, 02:45:09 am
Them? Their? They? Who are you referring to exactly? Scottish people? If so try being less ignorant next time. You're basing your argument on a bigoted and bias view point so I am done discussing this political matter with you, we will only come to an impasse.
please think before you accuse

Yea "them" as in the Scottish, as we were talking about the Scottish - there was nothing "ignorant" about it as claiming such is clearly more twisting to make me look bad - as is typical with politics and people using them to fight unfairly

There was clearly no malice there will you stop imagining issues with me

And I'm not bigoted - and coming from the guy who solely blamed the "English" for the vote balance that is typically hypocritical of you

I said every single person in the U.K. Was involved, and this was the joint result. And further pointed out it doesn't make anyone stupid, trump supporters, forcing their views on any one, racist or bigots

I will not have you twisting what I say zen. All I've said is the "Scottish" chose to stay in the uk - and this chose to be part of the U.K. In all forms and requirements as such, including the referendum and any other democratic vote

To accuse me of being bias and bigot, solely for saying if you chose to stay in a union and that union holds a "union wide" vote - it's wrong to solely blame one portion of it, or pull out just coz you didn't get what clearly you alone wanted instantly, despite having the previous vote that ended in majority wanting to stay in the uk. You can say it's coz they wanted to stay in the eu all you want but it wasn't the only reason and you know it

And let's not forget, multiple times now I've said if Scotland wants independence so it can run itself how itself chooses - I'm all for it, and was years ago too. I ask you to think about the fact the people who voted "leave" - are saying the exact same damn thing - WE want to be in CONTROL of OUR country

Nor am I "only" speaking to you, this is a open discussion. What is wrong with you


Now I won't continue with this anymore, coz I'm fed up with you twisting my words and just insulting my country and implying all my thoughts are bias, bigoted and racist - which let me reiterate is completely untrue
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: timelordalex on June 26, 2016, 10:00:21 am
I voted remain, so was disappointed by the result, but apparently there maybe a 2nd referendum anyway.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: HitmanVere on June 26, 2016, 08:43:59 pm
This makes me sad

https://www.facebook.com/sarah.leblanc.718/media_set?set=a.10101369198638985&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/sarah.leblanc.718/media_set?set=a.10101369198638985&type=3)
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: Koan on June 26, 2016, 09:08:39 pm
This makes me sad

https://www.facebook.com/sarah.leblanc.718/media_set?set=a.10101369198638985&type=3 (https://www.facebook.com/sarah.leblanc.718/media_set?set=a.10101369198638985&type=3)

Racists and xenophobes are out in force across the country, thinking they've won their country back. But in reality, they'll probably be the first to be significantly affected by the vote when their shitty holidays to Benidorm become more expensive.

People like the racists in that album are far too common in this shithole of a country.
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: steviewonder87 on June 26, 2016, 09:35:58 pm
Racists and xenophobes are out in force across the country, thinking they've won their country back. But in reality, they'll probably be the first to be significantly affected by the vote when their shitty holidays to Benidorm become more expensive.

People like the racists in that album are far too common in this shithole of a country.

Take Britain back! We want less immigrants and more white illiterate racist council estate scum on the dole! #MakeBritainGreatAgain #VoteUKIP #FarageforPM
Title: Re: Brexit
Post by: DeathBringerZen on June 26, 2016, 09:41:56 pm
is I won't continue with this anymore, coz I'm fed up with you twisting my words and just insulting my country and implying all my thoughts are bias, bigoted and racist - which let me reiterate is completely untrue

Fair enough, I retract my previous statement. It was said in the heat of the moment and because your quoted comment had an air of bigotry in it. I was probably just taking it out of context. I would like to stress though that I have nothing against England or the English people but the majority of votes to leave came from England hence my reasons for using it as the focal point.

Yes it was a vote nation wide and as such no one specific should be blamed for swinging the vote but as all Scottish constituencies voted unanimously to remain within the EU I think the Scottish parliament should explore all possible avenues regarding independence or remaining in the EU as an individual commonwealth country.