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Everything Else => Computer Tech => Topic started by: MakeCents on September 16, 2015, 02:27:53 pm
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This is my pc:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=83-220-445R&turntoqid=T0MBa04Z&turntosuid=SEYGaE8XYw&sourceId=1&iqrlId=9711161&turntosku=N82E16883220445R&turntoflow=answer#turntodone (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=83-220-445R&turntoqid=T0MBa04Z&turntosuid=SEYGaE8XYw&sourceId=1&iqrlId=9711161&turntosku=N82E16883220445R&turntoflow=answer#turntodone)
I also swapped out the 300 for a 500w power supply.
I was thinking of getting this case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353027 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353027)
I know shit about this stuff. Does anyone have any recommendations? Is it necessary? Will I have any problems getting my pc in this? Is this a decent case. I don't want to spend more than that, it's actually over what I want to spend. I was thinking of just buying a few fans and cutting out the front of my pc, putting two there, and putting one on the side. But I like the filter features and the underneath cooling of this one.
How do these fans compare to normal ones?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835856026 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835856026)
Edit: I think I decided to get fans for the front of mine and cut out or remove the lower section. I haven't taken this case apart in a while to see if there are mounts for fans up there or not.
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So do you want to get completely new components or do you just want to move your existing build into a new case?
If you buy a midi-tower or even a tower case you shouldn't have any problems with the space if you intend to move your build.
I'm a fan of the NZXT cases as they look very awesome yet they are kinda expensive and the quality is lower than you'd expect if you pay that much (nothing really notable as long as it's closed though).
I'm thinking about buying this one:
(https://sta3-nzxtcorporation.netdna-ssl.com/assets/images/en_us/products/cases/nzxt-concepts/noctis-450-case-black-red-370x370.png)
https://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/154-n450-noctis-gaming-mid-tower.html (https://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/154-n450-noctis-gaming-mid-tower.html)
That's the one I currently own:
(https://sta3-nzxtcorporation.netdna-ssl.com/assets/images/en_us/products/cases/phantom-series/phantom-410-case-white-front-left-370x370.png)
https://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/95-phantom-410-mid-tower-case.html (https://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/95-phantom-410-mid-tower-case.html)
However, they're both around 120$ :poker:
On second place of my personal favorites there's the Shinobi cases, they have a more simple look but are beautiful in their own way. Also they cost about half as much:
(https://www.ugx-mods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hardwareversand.de%2Fresource%3FarticleId%3D52114%26amp%3Bsize%3D2&hash=2367cc7ffc859beafd561d3a95b94633def9befa) (https://www.ugx-mods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hardwareversand.de%2Fresource%3FarticleId%3D70880%26amp%3Bsize%3D2&hash=19223c0abeac792e4eaf4a1d16127e8f4b9aa542)
for about 60-80$
I don't have much experience with smaller cases though but they are usually even less expensive.
If you really like the one you linked though I'd suggest you stick with that one. it's usually best to get the one you personally like the most. It should be big enough for your build too.
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Thank you so much!
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I just noticed the fan you linked, that one's for a cpu. I wouldn't recommend putting that one anywhere else on a pc..
If you buy a new case there normally are 1-3 pretty good fans included, you can normally stock up with the ones you had on your old machine.
Normally 2-3 are enough to cool your build so I'd choose the ones making the least noise and avoid unnecessary coolers on your case and therefore unnecessary noise.
If you do want better cooling on your cpu though you could either buy some liquid cooling (I'd recommend at least a midi-tower for that) which should be around 70$ or a better fan than the stock ones (if you don't have one already) which are normally about 30-60$ depending on cooling power and noise.
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When going for a cooler cpu id recommend a pre filled liquid cooling solution. Installs just like a normal cpu cooler but its way more effective and the fans actually cooling the liquid also cool your case ;) So a new case isnt really necessary
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Damn Alerion, wtf, those cases are so awesome. :rainbow:
(https://www.ugx-mods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDgic5r1.jpg&hash=dca63c0629717f7fa007dbc696359c819cf8ecc5)
I have this case. I bought it not a very long ago, for a decent price. And I have no more than 2 fans, which I feel are pretty enough though. I don't know wether I'd suggest this to you, but, because I've seen it like 100 times at all places were I live, so it must have some good reputation. But if you have some good budget, then I say go for Alerion's, it probably is the best suggestion.
I even like the size of the case, it's pretty good for it's performance, and not bulky.
Suggestion: From my experience, I'd say, buy a branded case, were everything is packed up and ready, because that would be more guranteed, since everything would be compatible to each other.
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I'd say, buy a branded case, were everything is packed up and ready, because that would be more guranteed, since everything would be compatible to each other.
No.
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No.
Well lol, this depends on the providers/sellers, and what do they give you. Almost all sellers I encountered are bastards, and want to cheat on me in a way or another, so I shut them up by getting a sealed full package.
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Guys doesnt even matter he doesnt need a new case for better cooling wtf?!
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Thank you to everyone for their suggestions. I will start by taking my side off and seeing if I can get some fans installed up front. If I make any progress on modding mine, I'll post picks, or which ever case I go with.
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Also for fans: im pretty sure whatever person you ask that knows his (or her) shit will tell you that nocuta fans are the best :D
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Also for fans: im pretty sure whatever person you ask that knows his (or her) shit will tell you that nocuta fans are the best :D
Appreciate it. :D
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Guys doesnt even matter he doesnt need a new case for better cooling wtf?!
Agreed. No point in spending money in a better case or fans if you don't even need it.
Download speedfan and take a screenshot while on the desktop and right after a really intensive game.
Edit: screenshot of the temps in speedfan.
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Well, when it comes down to cases its about airflow. If you want air to pass through the case then get a case that has holes or ventilation around the case. And add the fans to the necessary places to help blow the air through it.
So again, if you want fresh air going through your PC then get a case that's more open. Otherwise if you have a more closed case fans can do the job as long as it isn't warm air from the components within the case.
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So I found this case and it was really tempting.
http://www.amazon.com/Nanoxia-Silence-Micro-ATX-Motherboard-Controllers/dp/B00DSFEQKY/ref=sr_1_23/182-1161922-2216165?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1442581869&sr=1-23&keywords=200mm+fan+filter (http://www.amazon.com/Nanoxia-Silence-Micro-ATX-Motherboard-Controllers/dp/B00DSFEQKY/ref=sr_1_23/182-1161922-2216165?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1442581869&sr=1-23&keywords=200mm+fan+filter)
But I think I will just add one more fan and cut out the front of my pc. There is a mount for one but no fan there or vent. I got this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00L64NSL2?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_3&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00L64NSL2?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_3&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)
Which is 60 bucks cheaper. I also will get filter (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036WTDHK?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_2&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER) to mount after I cut out the hole in the face. I looked into the nocuta, and yeah, they prob are the best, lol, for that price. Maybe I'll as for the case from Christmas from the wife...
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Well then, good luck at modding your case(:
And remember, there are more things that can go wrong than you could imagine :P
On this one for example I may eventually have slightly blocked all the sidefans ::)
(https://www.ugx-mods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FO1oHjKa.jpg&hash=82e3d8bf422d7c17098608d28625b504825d80b5)
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Here is the final result. Added a 120 in the front and an 80mm with MC into the side for looks, my brother plasma cut for me
(https://gyazo.com/1d2023f4f07145449d008faaf3fd2131.jpg)
When I added an LED strip inside for more light it shut my psu down, lol, so that isn't getting added.
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Here is the final result. Added a 120 in the front and an 80mm with MC into the side for looks, my brother plasma cut for me
(https://gyazo.com/1d2023f4f07145449d008faaf3fd2131.jpg)
When I added an LED strip inside for more light it shut my psu down, lol, so that isn't getting added.
That MC plasma cut looks so cool :rainbow:
But I gotta say, the case looks a bit weird with the fan in the front of the case, lol.
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That MC plasma cut looks so cool :rainbow:
But I gotta say, the case looks a bit weird with the fan in the front of the case, lol.
lol, thanks, and I think it may be the acorn nuts I used. I thought it would come out a bit cooler looking.
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When I added an LED strip inside for more light it shut my psu down, lol, so that isn't getting added.
Thats some "killer" LED strip right there :lol:
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Thats some "killer" LED strip right there :lol:
Lol, right. POS PSU. I even upgraded it from 350 to 500. Or maybe something wrong with the strip, who knows.
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Lol, right. POS PSU. I even upgraded it from 350 to 500.
how does a 350 give enough power for anything at all o.O
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how does a 350 give enough power for anything at all o.O
It's why I bought it, so cheap, + 50 bucks for a new PSU, done. What were they thinking... The video card alone recommended 350, lol. Hind sight, I could have went larger...
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It's why I bought it, so cheap, + 50 bucks for a new PSU, done. What were they thinking... The video card alone recommended 350, lol. Hind sight, I could have went larger...
most retail pcs ive got hol of are about the same
Even my last one, guys like "oh you can upgrade the GPU no problem! as there isnt one included, the slots just empty, you can just pop any one we sell in and itll just GO, no other steps required"
me
3 weeks, several trips back to the shop with their PC and a GPU "bought from their shop" and £80 on a new PSU and upgrade to the fan...
They really need to teach their staff.... fuckers had to do it for free coz i already knew what he was telling me was bullshit lol
bare in mind this was bought when win 8 pcs were " a new thing" that hadnt been around more than a month or two
1. Windows 8 UEFI PC did not i repeat not want to work with ANY gpu, and ended up needing professionally fitting ( which even they fucked up 3 times ) - not so much a issue nowadays but back then? Really was. All the advice said i need to reflash the GPU to support UEFI, but i dare you to try explaining that to either the shop or the manufactorer - or even "have" a way to do that...
2. PSU was never going to be sufficiant
3. They had actually completely disabled the GPU slot in bios
4. Had to turn of fast/secure boot - therefore most of the new and wonderful reasons i bought WIN 8 - to even get it working
lol funniest thing was they took it the first time to fit it and made me pay, Had a power cut that day - guess what, no picture again, so had to go straight back
They were like "well were not responsible for power cuts" - me - "are you a fucking idiot? What kind of pc is fucking totalled after not being shut down properly! 3 hours after you - professionally upgraded it -"
lol oh boy that adventure was a nightmare.... lesson learned tho, theres a reason PCworld / Currys is voted the worst in customer service in the UK
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So, all this, and I see my CPU is running anywhere between 27 and 60, not higher than 60, and I plan on upgrading the graphics card yet, and adding a cpu cooler, and.....
I went and bought a case anyway. I figured when I am done upgrading, I can just put the old parts back in the old case prob, lol.
Here is what I got, it's much wider than I thought it would be.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QMVKVAA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00QMVKVAA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00)
Fractal Design Define R5 Gaming Case
(https://www.ugx-mods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fecx.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F61E4-APOyBL._SL1000_.jpg&hash=0929140c9bf091ea59bd6efe6a1c6fcad5423306)
Hindsite, I'd recommend just getting a new, bigger case. I can still use some of the fans I bought, but it was really wasted effort, but fun none the less, I guess.
Double Post Merge: January 28, 2016, 05:03:23 pm
After installation:
(https://gyazo.com/1ea5126ea3bf7bc52e0faba3263b2aa0.jpg)
My ram was too large for the new cpu cooler, which mounted perpendicular to the way I though it would, and I had to move the ram to the 3rd and 4th slot, not sure if that will be an issue, its working for now.
Now the new 140mm fans run below 400rpm, which keeps giving me warnings, hope that is normal, I assume move more air, run slower then... Idk.
Learning a lot I think. CPU is cooler. running in 20-45 range now instead of the 20 - 60. The CPU cooler and the SSD seem to see the biggest differences.
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A machine is built, tested, and later rated as the product is.
The larger PSU replacement is now creating more heat than the machine was tested/rated at.
A Proper/Efficient cooling system is crucial for anything especially a powerful machine. Even a stock machine becomes more powerful if you were to cool it 10-30 Celsius. Even though not physical. Heat is disruptive and bogs shit down. Cooling makes systems work much better un-interrupted.
This will also extend the life & durability of every component in the system.