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Title: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: BioAftermath on February 21, 2014, 06:51:23 am
I have an AMD Radeon HD 7900 Series and was planning on getting another graphics card becuase some of the games I play are getting some frame rate drop since I like to run games on high settings and my motherboard can support another graphics card. Will getting a slightly more powerful  AMD Radeon increase graphics processing power by more than double? Or is in not worth it to have two graphics card?
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: moonmaster1 on February 21, 2014, 07:05:03 am
If you plan to use crossfire (dual gpu's) be sure your card is crossfire compatible, be sure to have a crossfire cable, and finally try to stay with the same brand if possible.


In case you are met with a serious problem customer service will be more likely to help if you are using their products exclusively.
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: GAFerreira13 on February 22, 2014, 12:33:07 am
well, i think you should crossfire, getting a crossfire cable is pretty easy, and you should see some great performance upgrades. One thing though is that not all games support crossfire efficiently, and you MUST (it's not compulsory, but it avoids unecessary problems) use another gpu that's the same as your current one.
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: treminaor on February 28, 2014, 04:44:03 am
I've been told by multiple people that SLI/crossfire is a waste of money/resources. A lot of games have poor support for it and some games even crash because of it. You will even have to disable one of your cards for most games that are 5-10+ years old. You're better off investing in a single killer card than spending money to get more of what you already have.
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: GAFerreira13 on February 28, 2014, 11:33:49 pm
but... crossfire looks cooler xd
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: BioAftermath on March 01, 2014, 12:07:38 am
I've been told by multiple people that SLI/crossfire is a waste of money/resources. A lot of games have poor support for it and some games even crash because of it. You will even have to disable one of your cards for most games that are 5-10+ years old. You're better off investing in a single killer card than spending money to get more of what you already have.
The problem with that is that I want to sell my current graphics card, but no one what's a used graphics card...
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: GAFerreira13 on March 01, 2014, 12:55:26 am
The problem with that is that I want to sell my current graphics card, but no one what's a used graphics card...

Unless the price diference and warranty compensates...
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: treminaor on March 01, 2014, 01:29:54 am
The problem with that is that I want to sell my current graphics card, but no one what's a used graphics card...
I had no problem selling my AMD Radeon 6870 a few years ago and it was a few years used.
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: Delta on March 01, 2014, 01:47:06 am
Oh dear. Don't use crossfire. Use SLI but no - don't.

But a better graphic card instead.

SLI / Crossfire has a terrible game support. Every game needs to be patched. AMD ( just recently! ) and NV do usually deliver special SLI/Crossfire driver patches/fixes to support it.

Buy it's just a waste of space, power consuption and nerves for more performance. and it's not like 2x 100% equals 200%. It's more likewise 150% but probably worse.

Crossfire / SLI is only for those super hardcore gamers, who have a passion behind this and/or a large pocket.
It's for those who want to play Crysis 3 on a Triple Monitor with NV 3D glasses on full epic 4K Graphics on over 60 frames per secound.

Buy a better card and sell your old one. - My friend is doing this successfull with AMD. He only has to spend around ~50-100€ every year for the latest GPU by selling his old one.

I already had personally Crossfire and Dual / Double GPU. Ok, it was two years but it was just horrible.
And the micro stuttering, oh you will regret this, especially if you are very easy influenced by stuttering.
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: DeletedUser on March 01, 2014, 08:14:26 am
Yep, crossfire sucks, especially when it's built-in to the laptop. I hate it when I have to connect to power for Ghosts (amazingly high optimal settings) and BF4 (lowest graphics, highest resolution) to work 60 fps  :'(
Oh, and I don't have my old PC anymore, my new laptop just pretty much does it all and BF4 works on it even better than on my old PC which had a better gpu (nvidia geforce gtx 660, laptop has gtx 660m), better processor but less ram.
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: treminaor on March 01, 2014, 08:16:32 am
Yep, crossfire sucks, especially when it's built-in to the laptop. I hate when I have to connect to power for Ghosts (amazingly high optimal settings) and BF4 (lowest graphics, highest resolution) to work 60 fps  :'(
I've never heard of having crossfire built into a laptop - that seems overkill to me but cool that they somehow managed to do it lol.
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: DeletedUser on March 01, 2014, 08:19:18 am
I've never heard of having crossfire built into a laptop - that seems overkill to me but cool that they somehow managed to do it lol.
I have crossfire on my laptop..... with Intel HD Graphics (HD Graphics? pffft, seems legit) and Nvidia GeForce GTX 660M.
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: treminaor on March 01, 2014, 08:23:20 am
I have crossfire on my laptop..... with Intel HD Graphics (HD Graphics? pffft, seems legit) and Nvidia GeForce GTX 660M.
Nvidia calls it SLI, AMD calls it crossfire. Sounds like you have SLI?

Also I cant imagine it helps performance noticeably to have the shitty intel hd integrated chip running with the gtx 660m
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: DeletedUser on March 01, 2014, 08:24:39 am
Also I cant imagine it helps performance noticeably to have the shitty intel hd integrated chip running with the gtx 660m
It doesn't. I think it's for energy saving purposes.
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: treminaor on March 01, 2014, 08:31:58 am
It doesn't. I think it's for energy saving purposes.
Ah. Well my laptop switches between the intel hd integrated and the 660M depending on what you're doing to save energy - but it doesn't use both at the same time. Are you sure your laptop uses them both at once?
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: DeletedUser on March 01, 2014, 08:41:25 am
Ah. Well my laptop switches between the intel hd integrated and the 660M depending on what you're doing to save energy - but it doesn't use both at the same time. Are you sure your laptop uses them both at once?
Now, I actually think not.
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: GAFerreira13 on March 01, 2014, 02:41:20 pm
And after you sell your GPU I recommend buying AMD since bitcoin's starting to crash and all AMD GPUs will lower prices hugely.
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: BioAftermath on March 02, 2014, 08:16:07 pm
So, where would I sell my graphics card? I have an XFX Radeon HD 7950 Black Edition with 3GB of ram. It cost about $350-400, I was planning on selling it for about $300.
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: DeletedUser on March 02, 2014, 10:12:44 pm
So, where would I sell my graphics card? I have an XFX Radeon HD 7950 Black Edition with 3GB of ram. It cost about $350-400, I was planning on selling it for about $300.
Ebay, Craigslist, etc.
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: treminaor on March 02, 2014, 10:29:53 pm
So, where would I sell my graphics card? I have an XFX Radeon HD 7950 Black Edition with 3GB of ram. It cost about $350-400, I was planning on selling it for about $300.
No one is going to buy your used one for only $50 less than what you paid for it new.

I would put it up for $200 or $250 if it were mine.
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: BioAftermath on March 03, 2014, 05:07:09 am
No one is going to buy your used one for only $50 less than what you paid for it new.

I would put it up for $200 or $250 if it were mine.
Alright, thanks for the suggestion. I've got my eyes on this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CUIVSNS/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-5&pf_rd_r=1Z8MX2KGQ833MJX2HNXA&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1741301142&pf_rd_i=507846 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CUIVSNS/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-5&pf_rd_r=1Z8MX2KGQ833MJX2HNXA&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1741301142&pf_rd_i=507846)
It's pricey, but if I sell my graphics card for $200-$250 it will be a lot cheaper. Plus, I didn't get any Christmas presents, so I wanted to combine what I could have gotten then and my birthday presents so I could get something goo. I also need to upgrade my RAM, and (I know this my sound a bit stupid upgrading in a PC setup) my desk and chair because they suck. I probably won't get all of it now, but I really need a good desk and chair.
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: treminaor on March 03, 2014, 06:25:36 am
Alright, thanks for the suggestion. I've got my eyes on this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CUIVSNS/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-5&pf_rd_r=1Z8MX2KGQ833MJX2HNXA&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1741301142&pf_rd_i=507846 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CUIVSNS/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-5&pf_rd_r=1Z8MX2KGQ833MJX2HNXA&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1741301142&pf_rd_i=507846)
It's pricey, but if I sell my graphics card for $200-$250 it will be a lot cheaper. Plus, I didn't get any Christmas presents, so I wanted to combine what I could have gotten then and my birthday presents so I could get something goo. I also need to upgrade my RAM, and (I know this my sound a bit stupid upgrading in a PC setup) my desk and chair because they suck. I probably won't get all of it now, but I really need a good desk and chair.
Excellent card - if you get that it will not disappoint you - make sure you've got a proper i5/7 CPU to back up that bad boy, otherwise you'll be bottlenecked.
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: BioAftermath on March 03, 2014, 06:31:25 am
Excellent card - if you get that it will not disappoint you - make sure you've got a proper i5/7 CPU to back up that bad boy, otherwise you'll be bottlenecked.
I have an i5-3470 @3.20GHz 3.60GHz. I just hope I have enough wattage to support it.
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: treminaor on March 03, 2014, 06:33:16 am
I have an i5-3470 @3.20GHz 3.60GHz. I just hope I have enough wattage to support it.
What PSU are you using? And how much RAM?
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: BioAftermath on March 03, 2014, 06:41:53 am
What PSU are you using? And how much RAM?
PSU? Not sure what that is. And 8GB of RAM, but I need to get a bit more that writes data quick because I'm having problems compiling my map and building my mod.
 
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: daedra descent on March 03, 2014, 06:56:20 am
PSU? Not sure what that is. And 8GB of RAM, but I need to get a bit more that writes data quick because I'm having problems compiling my map and building my mod.

PSU = Power Supply (Unit?), in other words the component that you plug your power cord into.

Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: BioAftermath on March 03, 2014, 06:57:27 am
PSU = Power Supply (Unit?), in other words the component that you plug your power cord into.
I have a 500 watt supply.
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: daedra descent on March 03, 2014, 07:09:29 am
I have a 500 watt supply.

According to the GeForce website your PSU needs to be atleast 600 watts, as the GPU takes up 250 Watts by itself.

Link: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-780/specifications (http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-780/specifications)
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: BioAftermath on March 03, 2014, 07:11:36 am
According to the GeForce website your PSU needs to be atleast 600 watts, as the GPU takes up 250 Watts by itself.

Link: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-780/specifications (http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-780/specifications)
So I guess I'll have to try to sell the power supply too, and get a 750 watt supply.
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: treminaor on March 03, 2014, 07:42:47 am
So I guess I'll have to try to sell the power supply too, and get a 750 watt supply.
Definitely. And don't cheap out on it - expect to pay at least $150+ for a good one. Nothing under $100 is safe to use, efficient, or well-made.
Title: Re: Looking for a second Graphics card...
Post by: GAFerreira13 on March 03, 2014, 04:37:28 pm
excellent card, altough as i said amd cards' prices will drop a lot so I recommend you keep an eye on the prices