What about links in our profile, like Steam? Does he have those as well?Yes, technically any data you put on the forum and saved it.
Was is really necessary to delete Mikey's post?Yes, temporarily because of leaked informations (screenshot)
It had screenshots included from a new version of UGXL (not about the theme, but functions/other things) which are not for the public to be seen yet.Than why not just delete the screenshots?
Lukkie1998
and people though i was bad :troll:
Not really man. You just had a bad few months is all but I remember you being a solid and helpful member back when you were working on your Tranzit map. You were the one who chose to have your account deleted. You were never banned.try telling that to my poor 3 accounts :'( (2 of which i sacrificed to test a bypass of the bansystem, and 1 was banned for "stealing" the Requrim from greenlungs), but there has been talks about banning me cuz i do participate in :troll:ing
try telling that to my poor 3 accounts :'( (2 of which i sacrificed to test a bypass of the bansystem, and 1 was banned for "stealing" the Requrim from greenlungs), but there has been talks about banning me cuz i do participate in :troll:ing
Yes, technically any data you put on the forum and saved it.
But those "social" informations are public to anyone.
10. You will never threaten another site members' personal property, family, or life.
WTF? He clearly threatened to dump private information and he wasn't banned? I understand that it wasn't a direct threat against someone's life and all, but the information that he *claimed* he had and was going to dump could put someone's life's at risk.
Ah Custom Zombies - possibly the only online 'community' where a mutually beneficial and friendly relationship can turn into threats and litigation over a chat on Skype. Awesome :).tis how we role
tis how we role(https://www.ugx-mods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fqf2Ezdv.png%3F2&hash=055ac4b3376d6e876bbb8a9d9dd31671b216cfa3)
Modders hate the words "benficial" and "optional" and especially "pay"
:D
People are still holding on to Stevie rolling in the dough! More power to you Stevie, it's not like you dont know your stuff.(https://www.ugx-mods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FqfwxWaT.jpg%3F1&hash=b25359a04a78fa74bcda70b681ba6a65139feac7)
I can't begin to say I understand the fullness of the issue. But usually if you agree to do work for someone for free, you don't really have any claim to prohibit the use of the source code later down the road (in my opinion).depends on what - if any - terms were laid out before hand
And if you don't want to be the bad guy don't make serious threats that involve a hundred thousand people's information. That's just immature.
Can't say I understand tomikaze's photo ::)I DO!
Also Mikey has no chance stealing my identity as he doesnt even know my real name.................
:accepted:lol sorry, couldnt resist ;)
Haha, This is amazing to see. By the way thats not my name. Nice try though? I don't know. I do not give out my name. Well I will have to give it you. You got the first name correct. My name is Michael.Sorry we didn't get your name spelled correctly, we must have been too concerned with you leaking the personal data of nearly 200,000 people for absolutely no reason to make sure your first name was spelled in the correct form.
Right so lets get this clear. I was scaring you. I took some lines from the db and then got that shit off my system. I am not stupid enough to handle a file like that. I then continued to put it in the middle of a large spaced out document and sent you a screenshot. This was a scare tactic. I am not stupid I did not take anything and nor do I have anything to leak.So you're not stupid enough to rip and store our dataabse but you're stupid enough to threaten that you did in order to get your own way. Oh that's SUPER smart (/sarcasm). We have zero proof that you did not rip or store the entire database, or that you deleted whatever you did take. Why would we trust your word on that now? We don't trust you at all anymore.
This is where they became children by saying that I have been threatening them with legal action where in reality I just stated what I would do if my work was to be continued / copied.Nothing about our response to you has been childish. We respond to threats with appropriate action. Using scare tactics is childish.
They then become extremely defensive and I had to stop. I left them with a simple agreement to agree to. They where given the choose to have my designs, concepts and all the work I have done for them excluding the source files and all they would need to agree to is to keep me in the credits for the designs while they where using my designs. Seems pretty fair to me. Right?. Delta spouted a load of crap about how he wanted to take legal action and how they would try to tie me to an agreement that I was never given.You did not leave us with a simple agreement, you left us with a fake ultimatum. Either we sign an agreement with you to keep the designs or we discard your designs. We chose to disgard your designs and start over, which apparently caused you to go ape shit and make all kinds of threats to our community and our team.
So I scared them. I was bored of the shit. I was board of delta and I wanted 5 minutes of them shitting them selves. So I faked having a db. Seems fair enough right? You be a cunt to me and I will get my own back?This is pure gold. You accuse us of being childish dicks and them plainly admit that for 5 minutes of entertainment you threaten 200,000 people. That's TOTALLY not childish!
Good riddance, should have gone with my gut and never brought you onboard to the UGX Team.
You're joking right? Please tell me you're joking? Mikey is my friend he will never do such a thing .
You're joking right? Please tell me you're joking? Mikey is my friend he will never do such a thing .the evidence and list of people coming forward sayin "yeah never liked that guy" says otherwise lol
I have spoke to Mikey myself, no this was not a joke.belive me exo, mikey is a good kid he must be at some kind of a trouble to do such a thing. Now most of my assets in my pm should i change my PS?
the evidence and list of people coming forward sayin "yeah never liked that guy" says otherwise lollol hahahahahahah harry i fell from my chair just laughing.
Like said previously, he "was" working with DualVII and friends, until they too also got annoyed with him and his ways
when he helped me he bound half my keys to vidrestart so half the keys i hit reset my game ( he did this while using my PC via teamviewer, this is the only reason i found them at all, with someone elses help in the end )... took me FOREVER to find them as i was new back then...
Give you one example, my crouch button. So when i was testing D2P i was constantly restarting my game and couldnt find why
He also ran a program on my mod.csv to "make it better and actually organized" - i think his term was ( despite being perfectly well organized ) This duplicated just about every asset like 10 times in my mod.csv. As you can guess, just imagine the sound alias erors due to being called multiple times...
belive me exo, mikey is a good kid he must be at some kind of a trouble to do such a thing. Now most of my assets in my pm should i change my PS?
Ah Custom Zombies - possibly the only online 'community' where a mutually beneficial and friendly relationship can turn into threats and litigation over a chat on Skype. Awesome :).and you missed the golden age back in zombiemodding :3
You're joking right? Please tell me you're joking? Mikey is my friend he will never do such a thing .
lol hahahahahahah harry i fell from my chair just laughing.as funny as it sounds - this was part of the reason my perk release was so damned late
why does this site seem to be a magnet for these people?you got me man, idk the last thing i need is someone to steal my assets lol.
you got me man, idk the last thing i need is someone to steal my assets lol.mate try being me and pieman.... we get robbed left right and centre lol
If this threat is yet imminent, wouldn't it be more prudent to have an automated email sent out to every last member? I'm sure a reasonable number of the members aren't active members.the entire database is "allegedly" in his possession so that's 200,000 accounts - there is no way to check who is or isnt active these days, and if they have been here "recently" or not shouldn't make a difference
the entire database is "allegedly" in his possession so that's 200,000 accounts - there is no way to check who is or isnt active these days, and if they have been here "recently" or not shouldn't make a difference
fact is he claims it was a bluff, not much we can do beyond what we have done
Spoiler: click to open...(https://www.ugx-mods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.andy-king.me%2F707a3741f34c9e755368d91701556e40.png&hash=592e549f84e27945f7d7f460feb34b3f137e34a6)
It doesn't matter as to whether or not the member is active. The enquiry was as to whether or not an automated email could be sent to ALL members. And I don't think you can trust the validity of the statement saying the threat was a bluff.and im saying its "too many" members to contact, plus over 70% wont even check the email....
Lukkies response makes that perfect.
If this threat is yet imminent, wouldn't it be more prudent to have an automated email sent out to every last member? I'm sure a reasonable number of the members aren't active members.Unfortunately sending an email to over 200.000+ email accounts takes a lot more than just pressing a single button. Most Server providers limit emails to prevent spam mails being sent. This is the only way we can let everyone know at this moment.
Wow. I came to UGX to check some stuff and what a drama you have here!
Theres more to the story isnt there, I think ugx is holding back somethingMore then meets the eyes! UGX kidnapped Mikey's family and is now in a active volcano
Theres more to the story isnt there, I think ugx is holding back somethingYou sir, are a genius!
lol yea sounds like a real stand up guy, threatening 200,000 people over a picture or two - threatening legal action and what knotIt's not just a picture, it's pretty much a whole concept/design. A bit more than 'a picture or two'.
At this point I'm not going to immediately say you're spreading shit but do you actually have any evidence of this? Also, if this really happened why didn't you tell anybody before?
Like said previously, he "was" working with DualVII and friends, until they too also got annoyed with him and his ways
when he helped me he bound half my keys to vidrestart so half the keys i hit reset my game ( he did this while using my PC via teamviewer, this is the only reason i found them at all, with someone elses help in the end )... took me FOREVER to find them as i was new back then...
Give you one example, my crouch button. So when i was testing D2P i was constantly restarting my game and couldnt find why
He also ran a program on my mod.csv to "make it better and actually organized" - i think his term was ( despite being perfectly well organized ) This duplicated just about every asset like 10 times in my mod.csv. As you can guess, just imagine the sound alias erors due to being called multiple times...
This some alterIWNet/FourDeltaOne/alterOps shit lol.
And now is Repz xD
So Trem says this “You did not leave us with a simple agreement, you left us with a fake ultimatum. Either we sign an agreement with you to keep the designs or we discard your designs. We chose to disgard your designs and start over”
And then UGX Does this http://prntscr.com/9tghyp (http://prntscr.com/9tghyp)
So if UGX are saying they are discarding my designs then why are they continuing to use them for the site?
More lies from UGX. I will talk more about it when I am unbanned tonight. Also Harry is out right lying about the code thing. I have never helped him to my knowledge the last thing I would do is try to mess up a project or to bind keys to vid_restart? Like WTF.
here is my concept for the new theme. Just a little more proof that they are going against their word with everything.
http://i.imgur.com/kJVMhTa.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/kJVMhTa.jpg)
Here it using my javascript code.
Here it is saying its loading my css ( the sites style )
So yeah. That is just amazing. Trem please try to lie with out leaving things like that in there.
http://imgur.com/ouRFmNl (http://imgur.com/ouRFmNl)
I put hours worth of work into that and Trem is out right using it although refusing my offer to keep the site.
See you will all learn this soon enough. UGX Lies. They are not being transparent they are being careful with what they say and what they show you.
So it must be every user that AoKMiKeY took from the UGX-MOD site :'( :oSpoiler: click to open...(https://www.ugx-mods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.andy-king.me%2F707a3741f34c9e755368d91701556e40.png&hash=592e549f84e27945f7d7f460feb34b3f137e34a6)
So it must be every user that AoKMiKeY took from the UGX-MOD site :'( :oFor all we know, yes. He can't prove he didn't.
Personally I feel both parties are in the wrong here.Ah yes because you know 100% of the story from both sides right? :facepalm:
So if UGX are saying they are discarding my designs then why are they continuing to use them for the site?Oh don't worry it will continue to be redesigned until it no longer contains anything from you. I did not intend for donors to find out they had access to it, their access has now been revoked until the development is done.
More lies from UGX. I will talk more about it when I am unbanned tonight."More lies"? We haven't lied about anything.
http://i.imgur.com/kJVMhTa.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/kJVMhTa.jpg)Again I haven't lied about anything. Perhaps you should also tell people you are only responsible for the design of the homepage, nav bar, and the board index while you're at it? And that the entire rest of the theme was progressed by me? Don't worry about your precious javascript slider, I'll have that removed and replaced with something that works properly before anything goes public. The design is also subject to change although it barely even looks like your concept any more.
Here it using my javascript code.
Here it is saying its loading my css ( the sites style )
So yeah. That is just amazing. Trem please try to lie with out leaving things like that in there.
See you will all learn this soon enough. UGX Lies. They are not being transparent they are being careful with what they say and what they show you.Oh please, feel free to show something that proves this. You're so full of shit it's leaking out of your eye sockets.
I'm not either side of this argument but the question is why is MiKeY mad all a sudden at you guys the (UGX-Team) did you do something to annoy him? Or is he just mad for no reason and took the info? :oHe's mad because since he left the team we don't want to use the UGX Launcher designs he spent time on. Clearly it's really annoyed him that his time went to waste.
He's mad because since he left the team we don't want to use the UGX Launcher designs he spent time on. Clearly it's really annoyed him that his time went to waste.
In my opinion, If he spent time working on the design for the UGX Launcher he should be able to used it because its something he spent his time on when he could be working on other things :PHis terms for allowing us to use the designs were not something we wished to accept. Is something unclear about that? Why should be be forced? Or better yet why should he have the right threaten us if we don't?
But Again that's just my opinion I can be right or I can be wrong :P
His terms for allowing us to use the designs were not something we wished to accept. Is something unclear about that? Why should be be forced? Or better yet why should he have the right threaten us if we don't?
Don't mean to oppose you, but was his term of the agreement he offered to simply credit him? Why would that not be desirable for you?It didn't matter what the terms of agreement were. We no longer want to be associated with him, and that would include using his designs in the program. He would have gotten credit on the program even if none of this had happened and he was still on the team. There was never a thought of not giving him credit. This is simply how we want to handle the situation, I don't understand why we don't have a choice in what we do?
I'm not calling it chidlish, but I'm sure that could be said in better ways, no? :)When you read an 18 year old constantly accusing your entire team of "lies lies and more lies" you start to get a little frustrated.
It didn't matter what the terms of agreement were. We no longer want to be associated with him, and that would include using his designs in the program. He would have gotten credit on the program even if none of this had happened and he was still on the team. There was never a thought of not giving him credit. This is simply how we want to handle the situation, I don't understand why we don't have a choice in what we do?
When you read an 18 year old constantly accusing your entire team of "lies lies and more lies" you start to get a little frustrated.
Agreeable, you're handling this in a mature fashion, a few words won't make a difference when the opposing party is spewing lies at you.lol well he handles it better than I have on occasion at least lol :D
Ah yes because you know 100% of the story from both sides right? :facepalm:So let me get this straight:
:o I'm scared. JR, are you in there somewhere? If so, give me a sign. Tell me when Rise V3 is coming out.
So let me get this straight:Totally True! I can understand why MiKeY did what he did its not like UGX is the most friendly team ever *no harm intended*
You specifically state you wouldn't use his designs anymore yet continue to edit (and therefore continue to use) them in contradiction to yourself. You then claim it looks nothing like the designs Mikey created yet clearly it's nearly the exact same. You might want to learn about copyright laws. Alteration without the author's permission is prohibited with most licenses (and when under no license usage is strictly forbidden, let alone alteration). You basically just admitted to breaking copyright laws. Now please explain to me how I can't say you too are in the wrong here instead of childishly stating my opinion is invalid because I don't know the full details on something. It's your topic created by a staff member, if you don't want people to share their opinion, lock it. If you don't want people to share their opinion without knowing the full details, then provide the full details. We were given freedom of speech to express our opinions, therefore you can always expect people to voice their thoughts.
Instead of having a bitch fit about how "an 18 year old" is acting "immature" (once again, he too was in the wrong by making threats), how about you look at yourself for a second and question your own behaviour towards the parties involved and any other community members. I'm utterly sick and tired of your behaviour towards those who may not agree with your opinions and views (a great example of your immaturity shining in this aspect is the Oil Rig thread, throwing insults at your own members voicing an opinion). You created a successful community, now please don't screw it up by turning into an ignorant and egocentric prick.
TL;DR Either provide full details or stop whining about people voicing their opinions on something one of your staff members posted.
I have been reading the thread and as more and more is posted my opinion doesn't change:
- My password is said to be safe
- There appears to be no breach in the UGX information
- everyone is pissed and saying things they don't mean
- people are saying things they dont even have enough information about
My recommendation: a UGX moderator should delete this entire post and send out a more formal message stating there is no threat. I am losing professional respect for the site and for Trem just by the way the moderators are going about this. Keep it under control guys. You own this site! Be professional!
As for Mikey, enough about his immaturity is already shown just by what I have read from his personal posts
+1 respect for Harry being professional/neutral still 8) ;)
I don't think we have anything to feel dude. This isn't our mess. This is between UGX and Mikey. We can't do anything but change our passwords anyway.
So let me get this straight:As Delta said we have not yet had time to remove anything which is an "alteration of his design", we are working on it as fast as we can. The fact that people were able to apply the theme via a url exploit was beyond my control and never intended - this is a problem with SMF not us. For now we have disabled the theme entirely to prevent further exploitation. As I already stated previously in the topic anything that belongs to him will be removed. The rest of the theme was either a joint effort or entirely of my effort and will not be removed because it belongs to the team.
You specifically state you wouldn't use his designs anymore yet continue to edit (and therefore continue to use) them in contradiction to yourself. You then claim it looks nothing like the designs Mikey created yet clearly it's nearly the exact same. You might want to learn about copyright laws. Alteration without the author's permission is prohibited with most licenses (and when under no license usage is strictly forbidden, let alone alteration). You basically just admitted to breaking copyright laws.
Instead of having a bitch fit about how "an 18 year old" is acting "immature" (once again, he too was in the wrong by making threats), how about you look at yourself for a second and question your own behaviour towards the parties involved and any other community members. I'm utterly sick and tired of your behaviour towards those who may not agree with your opinions and views (a great example of your immaturity shining in this aspect is the Oil Rig thread, throwing insults at your own members voicing an opinion).You seem pretty mature now (/sarcasm), did you forget the little fit you threw before on this site before exiling yourself and then coming back? I'm supposed to take you seriously now? You have zero involvement in either side's affairs for this issue, I am under no obligation to consider your views as anything more than what they are: your views. They are not automatically facts.
I don't think we have anything to feel dude. This isn't our mess. This is between UGX and Mikey. We can't do anything but change our passwords anyway.
I have been reading the thread and as more and more is posted my opinion doesn't change:well to be fair i and the other moderators are not involved with this aspect. We solely maintain the forums and chat ;)
- My password is said to be safe
- There appears to be no breach in the UGX information
- everyone is pissed and saying things they don't mean
- people are saying things they dont even have enough information about
My recommendation: a UGX moderator should delete this entire post and send out a more formal message stating there is no threat. I am losing professional respect for the site and for Trem just by the way the moderators are going about this. Keep it under control guys. You own this site! Be professional!
As for Mikey, enough about his immaturity is already shown just by what I have read from his personal posts
+1 respect for Harry being professional/neutral still 8) ;)
UGX is the most friendly team ever *no harm intended*
Trem this describes all of us, hence why I said this post should be deleted entirely.they are right tho, if we block a topic like this it just spreads to the general discussion board and chat - then turns nasty
Hopefully this topic continues with maturity and with good points rather than people making off-topic comments and just saying anything, that pops into their minds. I am sure, that team will get this issue fixed as soon as possible, so that another drama event can die off... to make room -> for more drama :D
As a new member I haven't seen a blow up like this, so I will have to take your word for it. I just don't like to see so much bitching over something we dont really have a say in.lol yea youve missed a lot then. For he most part its ok just occasionally things get out of hand -
Trem this describes all of us, hence why I said this post should be deleted entirely.This topic was originally intended as a discussion of the potential information leak, not a fight over which side is lying. However the topic developed into this once Mikey chose to reveal that he likes fucking around with the info of 200,000 people as a joke and/or scare tactic. So here we are.
I have been reading the thread and as more and more is posted my opinion doesn't change:
- My password is said to be safe
- There appears to be no breach in the UGX information
- everyone is pissed and saying things they don't mean
- people are saying things they dont even have enough information about
My recommendation: a UGX moderator should delete this entire post and send out a more formal message stating there is no threat. I am losing professional respect for the site and for Trem just by the way the moderators are going about this. Keep it under control guys. You own this site! Be professional!
As for Mikey, enough about his immaturity is already shown just by what I have read from his personal posts
+1 respect for Harry being professional/neutral still 8) ;)
I get it now guys. Get that newsletter working because it sounds like the only emails I would read.
As Delta said we have not yet had time to remove anything which is an "alteration of his design", we are working on it as fast as we can. The fact that people were able to apply the theme via a url exploit was beyond my control and never intended - this is a problem with SMF not us. For now we have disabled the theme entirely to prevent further exploitation. As I already stated previously in the topic anything that belongs to him will be removed. The rest of the theme was either a joint effort or entirely of my effort and will not be removed because it belongs to the team.I had a multi-paragraph reply ready to be posted but then I decided to take your route and ignore the essence of the post, completely shoving aside all legitimate points made.
You seem pretty mature now (/sarcasm), did you forget the little fit you threw before on this site before exiling yourself and then coming back? I'm supposed to take you seriously now? You have zero involvement in either side's affairs for this issue, I am under no obligation to consider your views as anything more than what they are: your views. They are not automatically facts.
I mean, really? You actually think a 1 and a half year old thread is an accurate representation of my current level of maturity? And to use that as an excuse to ignore a perfectly valid statement? Thought someone your age would know better...You think respect just magically comes back after passing time? Of course it's still relevant.
Honestly, if you can't be bothered to behave like a mature adult and address these concerns then I really can't be bothered to write a proper response either so unless you're going to man up and acknowledge you too were in the wrong I'm done here.Bye again, see you again maybe in a year or so.
You think respect just magically comes back after passing time? Of course it's still relevant.Now all of sudden we're talking about respect? What happened to maturity? Just because you don't respect someone doesn't mean they can't be mature.
Bye again, see you again maybe in a year or so.Since when does "I'm done here" imply I'm leaving the community? It simply means I'm done responding if no relevant points get addressed.
You think respect just magically comes back after passing time? Of course it's still relevant.
Bye again, see you again maybe in a year or so.
The long and short is, a choice was offered. UGX picked one. Its not up to anyone else to judge them for choosing that decisionThat's the whole point, their choice was to drop anything Mikey made which they clearly are not as they are still developing the theme further.
or it wouldnt be a "choice" in the first place
That's the whole point, their choice was to drop anything Mikey made which they clearly are not as they are still developing the theme further.as they have said, there has been little to no time between these developments - when exactly have they had a chance to even remove it?
I am frankly appalled by UGX for banning me after I reply to a topic to defend myself.
M8, you threatened to freaking dox innocent people who have done nothing to you. I don't give a crap if you didn't mean it or not, you never threaten people's lives like that. If i was Trem, i'd freaking IP ban you for pulling that crap. Why you aren't atleast account banned blows my freaking mind.I must admit being more than a little freaked out when Delta first posted this. Not knowing anything about AoKMikeY, or what he is capable of, I thought we were in for another TomBMX/ZombieModding takeover.
This statement alone leads me to believe that even if Trem is hard to work with he clearly believes in second chances, explanations, and honesty.
Trem obviously has nothing to hide and may have made a few mistakes along the way conveying his points, but even how defensive you are wording your stuff shows the "I am a victim attitude":
Also stuff takes time to remove guys so stop the whole "they are using his work", It is like saying Harry used Treyarchs work to make his perks. There will be similarities to whatever the UGX team produces and whatever Mikey has produced
Can't we all just get along and make some cool mods? :alone:Thoose days end like 4 years ago.
Seriously I feel like a large chunk of users here have lost the sense of community. I see more people spewing bullshit here than I see people responding in the General Help section.
I don't see the problem tbh, the only sensitive details mikey supposedly has access to are emails (what can he even do with these c'mon) and IPs (some of which are dynamic).and EVERY pm - so in theory just about every private asset i own - and even the password o my steam that i guess i need to go change YET again..., as well as my private conversations, messages I have sent as part of moderating that are "not" for others to see amoungst a million other things?
Even if someone's name is leaked via PayPal info, it won't have any effects on their life- none of this will. This situation has been extremely blown out of proportion.. :poker:
and EVERY pm - so in theory just about every private asset i own - and even the password o my steam that i guess i need to go change YET again..., as well as my private conversations, messages I have sent as part of moderating that are "not" for others to see amoungst a million other things?its ur fault for not knowing that SMF saves the PMs :D
Your just being silly now... Its called a "private" message for a reason....
Harry doesnt make models, he makes scripts. I am referring to his scripts.
I don't see the problem tbh, the only sensitive details mikey supposedly has access to are emails (what can he even do with these c'mon) and IPs (some of which are dynamic).
Even if someone's name is leaked via PayPal info, it won't have any effects on their life- none of this will. This situation has been extremely blown out of proportion..
Now all of sudden we're talking about respect? What happened to maturity? Just because you don't respect someone doesn't mean they can't be mature.Respect and maturity go hand-in-hand. However we're both severely off topic now so let's just get back to the original subject.
But no. I am not going to stoop as low as Trem and Delta have in this post. You both value your community as much as I would value my worst enemy. I have nothing more to say on this fact. I have no database. You feel for a trick.How has anything here proved we do not value our community? We highly value their security and well-being, and you threatened that when you came around pretending (we still don't know if you were really pretending) to have a rip of the database. Shows how much you can be trusted... we give you minimal server access (which you asked for so many times) so you can edit php files... you use it to dump database information. Really trustworthy behavior right there.
UGX ( Trem and Delta ) made me believe they where going to continue using my designs with out agreeing to give me credit. You can see why this would annoy me. I worked very hard for months to make these design.Please show me the message(s) which made you believe this with such certainty that you thought an appropriate response was to threaten not only us but our entire community. And be careful not to leave out any context which might affect how people view these messages!
I am frankly appalled by UGX for banning me after I reply to a topic to defend myself. Nothing more. Nothing less. I just wanted to DEFEND myself in the public's eye. You disrespect your members and you have the audacity to say you are being transparent but you only are when it looks bad on me. I have admitted my mistakes but you do not care to admit your own.You were temp banned by Delta for breaking rule 10 of the site and for posting screenshots of the UGX Launcher which you did not have permission to post + posting screenshots of your supposed database leak which is private information again.
That's the whole point, their choice was to drop anything Mikey made which they clearly are not as they are still developing the theme further.This is a misunderstanding based on some mistakes I unintentionally made earlier today. We do not intend to continue using the parts of that theme which he is directly responsible for. The theme is no longer public and it was NEVER intended for it to be public in its current state which still contains files from Mikey such as the javascript slideshow. I thought it was secure from anyone except staff members to use, but apparently there is a way to enable it via a URL in your browser... so for now its completely uninstalled to prevent further unauthorized use.
This statement alone leads me to believe that even if Trem is hard to work with he clearly believes in second chances, explanations, and honesty.Thank you for the kind words. Again I'm trying my best to keep this is as transparent and fair as possible - it gets very difficult sometimes when my own reputation is taken into question or someone else in the team, sometimes it leads to an outburst like earlier today for which I apologize.
its ur fault for not knowing that SMF saves the PMs :Dhow is it "my fault" when
Just silly to say that Harry's perks are made up of code 100% made by him.
This litterrly went fromyou missed a bit :D
The database got leaked change your password
Everyone is terrible at their job
> whoops i mean the database wasnt stolen
Harrys perks are treyarchs
and EVERY pm - so in theory just about every private asset i own - and even the password o my steam that i guess i need to go change YET again..., as well as my private conversations, messages I have sent as part of moderating that are "not" for others to see amoungst a million other things?
Your just being silly now... Its called a "private" message for a reason....
its ur fault for not knowing that SMF saves the PMs :D
I don't like having to have these dirty laundry topics which go for 10-20 pages of arguing but sometimes that's just how things have to to go to reach a resolution or conclusion.
A major concern for me too, I don't have any messages that would be of any significance if gotten out but still they are private.luckily i think a load of my links have been removed and reuploaded ( i hope ), there was still some personal shit in there tho lol. Personally I believe him when he says he didnt really dump it and was just pulling something. But ofc I do recommend to everyone else that they do as advised by Scoba here as there is no way to be sure
I highly suggest you delete or private any files you have on your Mega, Mediafire Accounts, etc. that you would consider private.
It's not our fault that/if the DB got/gets leaked, I don't what forum software doesn't save them though I know some forum ownsers "prune" them after a while.
That's people for you, use these threads as a way to express their personal dig against someone...
If you don't think that information can't be used to track someone and get a hold of like credit card information or SSN via Social Engineering or something, your delusional.lol we're talking about the DB, not if your stupid enough to give somebody your SSN or credit card.
I don't think it can, I may be missing something but I still don't think it can. And besides, if mikey had the database he wouldn't go through 200k people to get a credit card.
Same with PMs, he wouldn't just check EVERY pm to see if he can get assets or private info.
he doesn't even have the DB so :rainbow:
He could just check for the accounts that match what he is looking for. Besides, some people will go far with these things, you never know.If you're talking about PMs, 219k PMs.. He'd have fun with that.
If you're talking about PMs, 219k PMs.. He'd have fun with that.
I'm guessing PMs text files aren't conveniently named "Exofile Assets" (unless they are, i don't really know).
And if it's with IPs or anything else really, mikey literally doesn't want a thing from UGX, no money, no assets, no private info.
He said he's done with everything.
If you're talking about PMs, 219k PMs.. He'd have fun with that.bit of a shining knight for him aint ya
I'm guessing PMs text files aren't conveniently named "Exofile Assets" (unless they are, i don't really know).
And if it's with IPs or anything else really, mikey literally doesn't want a thing from UGX, no money, no assets, no private info.
He said he's done with everything.
bit of a shining knight for him aint yaYes, because he's telling the truth lol
well, thanks anyway, but we will handle this how we feel is correct, not based on "what mikey said"
Yes, because he's telling the truth lol
Anyway, do what you want, but nobody would bruteforce 200k passwords so changing your password is useless. Anyway, if you trusted mikey to design for UGX, you can trust his apology and move on.
how is it "my fault" whenso your saying, getting ripped off durring a contract because they phrase things in such a way that you dont understand, yet you sign it anyways... thats not ur fault? A website is like anything else, you need to research it before you think about giving it your private info. Another example of "not my fault" is all those "fake" googles and other sites that look exactly like the actual google site, but are just there to steal your info. It is completely your fault for not looking at the adress bar. Also ive seen many people get "hacked" because they sign up on these sites. So if you want to blame anyone, blame yourself for not reasearching, btw SMF is the forum base that UGX uses and it is displayed at the bottom :troll:
a- i have never been told
b- have no experience - what so ever - with SMF?
c- noone should be stealing our DB anyway...
Moderator - not staff....Spoiler: click to open...And im gonna choose to let that go DD... but i assure you i used very little of treyarchs crap in my 5000 lines of code thank you, so i hardly think they count, and had i needed to i could have easily rewritten theirs, and infact in several places i "did" and had to write my own utility to fill in the missing functions from BO2- and over time have practically rewritten just about every zombie related script infact...
Yes, because he's telling the truth lol"I" didnt and i already didnt trust him, i am a mod who has potentially also been effected, just like the members, so your logic as usual is flawed. As is your attempts to convince 200,000 people
Anyway, do what you want, but nobody would bruteforce 200k passwords so changing your password is useless. Anyway, if you trusted mikey to design for UGX, you can trust his apology and move on.
private is not private, there is always someone who can see your "private" information. And i see nothing inside this that negates what i said
and liams your just being stupid now... you may understand every tiny detail, the other 99% of ANY community only understands what they can obviously. I also doubt most of them would even know "what" to check... Which is the same as any customer of any bank youll find ( I would know i work in em ). Private is private.
private is not private, there is always someone who can see your "private" information. And i see nothing inside this that negates what i said
Harry the only thing I have to say is that if PM's were not stored how would they show up in your account, they don't just work on pixie dust since that's where info is stored, and also that no matter where you are however you send the message there is a way for a third-party to obtain that information.umm there are other means of storing pms, there are such things as storing them on another server same with passwords aswell, sure it would complicate some scripts but its called security. and yes i agree with you, there is always a possibility of a third party involvment
Personally not changing my info as I do think Mikey fucked up but the threat isn't real. Also the fact that most of my passwords are different, that too.
Mickey threatened to release thousands of peoples private information which had the potentiality to literally ruin their lives.Ruin lives? :poker:
Ruin lives? :poker:
Um... passwords that may have been used on several sites, pay-pal info, IP adresses, personal conversations.Hashed password that need 4-5 years of bruteforce (trem said this :poker:), pay-pal info... LIKE YOUR NAME (oh god). IPs can be ddossed yeah but it wouldn't make sense for Mikey just to ddos some people, he has no motive. And then PMs, if you put anything in PMs that could ruin your life it's your own fault- this is a zombie forum ;-;
Hashed password that need 4-5 years of bruteforce (trem said this :poker:), pay-pal info... LIKE YOUR NAME (oh god). IPs can be ddossed yeah but it wouldn't make sense for Mikey just to ddos some people, he has no motive. And then PMs, if you put anything in PMs that could ruin your life it's your own fault- this is a zombie forum ;-;
We should be able to consider PM's a safe way of conversating.. There is a reason it's not viewable to anyone but recievers and those who sent them.Welp, UGX seems to be only suggesting to change your password. Also if Mikey had the database, permbanning him wouldn't stop him from doing anything :poker:
Hashed password that need 4-5 years of bruteforce (trem said this :poker:), pay-pal info... LIKE YOUR NAME (oh god). IPs can be ddossed yeah but it wouldn't make sense for Mikey just to ddos some people, he has no motive. And then PMs, if you put anything in PMs that could ruin your life it's your own fault- this is a zombie forum ;-;
edit- most IPs are dynamic too so :derp:
Even if you don't consider that data "life altering", it still doesn't make the threat any less deserving of a punishment.
Hashed password that need 4-5 years of bruteforce (trem said this :poker:), pay-pal info... LIKE YOUR NAME (oh god). IPs can be ddossed yeah but it wouldn't make sense for Mikey just to ddos some people, he has no motive. And then PMs, if you put anything in PMs that could ruin your life it's your own fault- this is a zombie forum ;-;
edit- most IPs are dynamic too so :derp:
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