Call of Duty 5: World at War => Custom Maps, Mods & Tools => Map Releases => Topic started by: natesmithzombies on January 06, 2016, 04:51:12 pm
Title: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: natesmithzombies on January 06, 2016, 04:51:12 pm
"Ode to BlackJackJohnny"
(https://www.ugx-mods.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fnv369yg.jpg&hash=81b1f4123e9103a1c2bc1decf441a9a7f0b141f3) A Thank You Map to BlackJackJohnny for his Youtube Tutorials
Storyline: The 4 heroes find themselves stuck in the remnants of the Factory Z115 site. The factory had become corrupt prior to the zombie apocalypse, contributing to air pollution in their production of a new element Z115. Element Z115 creates enough energy in a gram to power NYC for a day, but the byproduct causes the transformation of a human into a zombie. Zombies are still running the factory, and the only way to save the world is to shut down Factory Z115.
Theme: BlackJackJohnny has a series of youtube tutorials on how to use cod radiant. Before discovering his tutorials my mapping skills were extremely limited. I came across his videos when troubleshooting issues when working on my second map "Zombie National Park", which has been canceled due to my poor radiant practices. This map will contain mapping practices almost exclusively learned from BlackJackJohnny's tutorials. Features: - Harrybo21 Perks - Secret Double Jug (find all 4 Jug Bottles) - Earnable buyable ending - survive rounds with friends or alone inside the factory - there is a twist to the ending - 5 Double PaP weapons (each with elemental effects!) - Uzi - can be double Pap'ed - Crossbow - can be double Pap'ed - Dragunov - can be double Pap'ed - Spas - can be double Pap'ed - Galil - can be double Pap'ed - Custom PaP weapons - Secret Door - Buyable Perk Slot (initial 4 perk limit) - BO Guns - Nuketown Characters and Zombie - Hitmarkers - Zipline - Knifing Blood Splatter Notes: - Set specular map to off in Graphics settings - The map will be updated in the future - From start to finish the map took exactly 1 month (done over Xmas Break) - This is my second and last WaW map and was a preparation for BO3 Mod Tools
Credits: - BlackJackJohnny for Youtube Tutorials - Harrybo21 for perks and random help - Hitmanvere for beta testing and scripting help - codmoddd1234 for dog round fix - alaurenc9 for the bulk of the survive rounds script (the locking and all players in area was my addition) - Scobalula for random chat help - josemassacre beta testing - My personal friends Tswag- and Bsmith906 for input and beta testing - jei9363 for the zipline - Jbird632 for the blood splatter - Rorke for un-PaPed weapons - Aidan for teleporter - Tombmx for numerous tools - Koan for scripting help - BluntyStuffy for elemental weapons - MZslayer11 for hitmarkers - Are you missing? My bad. PM me to be added
What will be in v2?:
I plan to optimize the map so there is no dependence on T4M and to port in BOP2&3 weapons. I wanted to release v1 before I go back to college.
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: Exofile on January 06, 2016, 04:52:55 pm
Nice to see it released! Definetly going to be playing this later today. :gusta:
Edit: I noticed it's T4M. If you're planning on updating it, please make it not require t4m, it's not too hard if you manage your assets correctly. :poker: I don't play maps that use T4M, find it a lazy way out of a 400fx error or so on. ;)
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: Koan on January 06, 2016, 05:08:49 pm
I will put an additional note in the notes section so everyone doesn't rag on me too hard for using CFG. I was at time constraints with college starting back up. I wanted to release before school and I have been putting my social life on hold. v2 will have my own ported weapons and will be optimized.
Rorke said he used hide tags on most weapons. The stuff is there just hidden. But I also don't have a full conceptual understanding of how fx and assets work. I ran out of time to learn and will learn while everyone enjoys an "unoptimized" v1 of the map.
I also think it is interesting that everyone hates T4M. If the resources are available I use them. It is lazy and poor practice but for now it will suffice. Also Note: "I am garbage at managing my assets". I am not ragging on Rorke as I am happy enough to have had the easy road on the weapons in the first place.
Even if all the attachments are present but hidden with hide tags, the only limit that would affect would be the memory limit; which I don't think you are anywhere near at. What error do you get exactly if you try and run the map without T4M? And I agree the hostility towards T4M is baffling, I think I may make a post about it because I honestly don't know what some people's problem with it is. Anyway, the map looks nice, good job, always nice to see a mapper put some effort into his work. :)
Edit: There's a chance it may also bring you to the image/mtl limit too I suppose, but do you even have that many guns in the map?
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: steviewonder87 on January 06, 2016, 05:36:55 pm
Even if all the attachments are present but hidden with hide tags, the only limit that would affect would be the memory limit; which I don't think you are anywhere near at.
13 words in 11 mins? I guess I can buy that. :please:
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: ricko0z on January 06, 2016, 08:32:16 pm
:v
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: zombieslayer3 on January 06, 2016, 10:06:14 pm
map looks awesome , hate to see people quit making waw custom maps though , love bo3 , just hate you have to connect to internet to play zombies solo , sometimes my connection gets crazy some days and have to reset , so when that happens its nice to have waw custom maps to play , bo3 should have had an offline zombies solo play for pc , but anyway going to miss it , I know waw has been out a long time , just hate to see custom map making for waw retire .
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: XEcW22 on January 07, 2016, 01:34:06 am
Nice Map man, detail is pretty good ;)
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: Raspica Blue on January 07, 2016, 04:45:05 am
Please use mediafire whenever you can, but I'll take Google Drive download. Actually, I'm still downloading now, can't wait to see what it's like!
EDIT: Aaaannnnd I've just realized that it's a T4M map. Sorry, I don't play T4M maps. :/
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: CODCZ115 on January 07, 2016, 05:26:49 am
Only made my way to the Jug room so far, just did a quick run-through. Love the challenge of having to survive 3 rounds to open the staircase in the Jug room. Love the option to purchase an extra perk slot for a fair price, makes the map more challenging. Also, love that the Commando is a wall buy. Definitely one of my favorite guns. 1st box pull was a Thundergun. I'm looking forward to playing this map further tomorrow. Thank you for creating and sharing this map with the community.
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: Huvor on January 07, 2016, 02:05:14 pm
Playing this right now!! I also love me some BlackJackJohnny! :D
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: steviewonder87 on January 07, 2016, 06:29:56 pm
Aaaannnnd I've just realized that it's a T4M map. Sorry, I don't play T4M maps. :/
:facepalm:
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: ped078 on January 07, 2016, 06:47:47 pm
A well made map no doubt, but the "Survive x rounds to open next door" got dragged out and made the game unessesarily long. Got bored "round watching".
Sorry man :/
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: Exofile on January 07, 2016, 07:18:02 pm
Did you play solo? I am a big coop player and it is significantly more fun with friends. In coop the survive rounds can only be activated when all players are by the door. Hitmanvere said the same thing as you when he beta tested. Survive rounds and camping are a style of playing that some people dont like. No hard feelings ;)
You see Relaxing's gameplay of this? Pls fix error. :D
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: ricko0z on January 07, 2016, 07:21:10 pm
Indeed, i can not understand why those guy should not play a T4M map. I do not see the point... :poker:
I don't mind t4m. I mind how mappers use it as a easy way out. Look at what maps have been made so far without it. Manage your assets correctly, and most maps won't need it. I decide not to play T4M maps to encourage the user to make maps without it :)
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: DeletedUser on January 07, 2016, 07:53:38 pm
I don't mind t4m. I mind how mappers use it as a easy way out. Look at what maps have been made so far without it. Manage your assets correctly, and most maps won't need it. I decide not to play T4M maps to encourage the user to make maps without it :)
This does not imply to do not play a map, for example look my map! that has memory limit, images limit, weapons limit and it is not my fault if i need all that "assets" (which is still a very good map). What I mean is that we should not judge a map because a mapper as you say is "lazy" or because is a beginner.
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: Exofile on January 07, 2016, 07:57:11 pm
I get the point but to me its like owning a car and still walking everywhere.
Only that the car takes you faster to a place you could walk. A place you can walk with little effort, so why take the car when there is a better alternative that doesn't require an extra addon such as a car, aka T4M?
This does not imply to do not play a map, for example look my map! that has memory limit, images limit, weapons limit and it is not my fault if i need all that "assets" (which is still a very good map). What I mean is that we should not judge a map because a mapper as you say is "lazy" or because is a beginner.
I am not calling anyone lazy. I am saying that using T4M on maps that don't need it if you manage the assets properly, is a lazy way of doing it. You see Leviathan, didn't need T4M. I highly doubt that a map made so far desperately needs it.
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: Scobalula on January 07, 2016, 08:02:20 pm
This does not imply to do not play a map, for example look my map! that has memory limit, images limit, weapons limit and it is not my fault if i need all that "assets" (which is still a very good map). What I mean is that we should not judge a map because a mapper as you say is "lazy" or because is a beginner.
Refer to the second line of my signature please.
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: steviewonder87 on January 07, 2016, 08:08:13 pm
Only that the car takes you faster to a place you could walk. A place you can walk with little effort, so why take the car when there is a better alternative that doesn't require an extra addon such as a car, aka T4M?
Edit:
I am not calling anyone lazy. I am saying that using T4M on maps that don't need it if you manage the assets properly, is a lazy way of doing it. You see Leviathan, didn't need T4M. I highly doubt that a map made so far desperately needs it.
Feel free to take my Oil Rig assets and fit them in without T4M ::). And trust me, I'm far better with asset management than most people.
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: DeletedUser on January 07, 2016, 08:10:38 pm
Because those mappers they have so much skill :please: maybe i understand all this hatred on the T4M... in many they are not capable to put a .dll file or search it on google "cod waw lan fix" right?
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: Exofile on January 07, 2016, 08:18:23 pm
Feel free to take my Oil Rig assets and fit them in without T4M ::). And trust me, I'm far better with asset management than most people.
Well, I won't play simple maps like this one, where I can see that T4M isn't needed. But a map like Oil Rig? I can trust you that you need it, because I know that you're a good mapper, and wouldn't add it in without really needing it. My choice to not play t4m maps goes out to the maps I see don't need it. I try to help encourage them not to use it, and learn more in the process of managing assets. ;)
Because those mappers they have so much skill :please: maybe i understand all this hatred on the T4M... in many they are not capable to put a .dll file or search it on google "cod waw lan fix" right?
I don't know what "hatred" you're on about, but ok. I don't have it, I only want to encourage people not to use it when it's not needed. :please:
But enough for now, this offtopic. If anyone really needs to discuss it, just make a separate post for it. 8)
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: DeletedUser on January 07, 2016, 08:20:58 pm
Because those mappers they have so much skill :please: maybe i understand all this hatred on the T4M... in many they are not capable to put a .dll file or search it on google "cod waw lan fix" right?
It does not require skill to manage assets and picking at people's lack of knowledge is stupid in itself. I don't hate T4M, if I did the DLL wouldn't be in my WaW folder all the time (mostly because I cba in having Steam running and like to take my WaW folder from PC to PC, it has its advantages there as well), but all maps that currently "require" T4M shouldn't require it at all.
I have no issue with T4M, I have no issue with map's requiring it, I commend DUKIP and the guys who worked on it and released, I use it myself for the reason above, I do have an issue with an un-optimized map requiring it.
EDIT: Erm...This has majority gone off topic and this isn't the topic to be discussing this on, natesmithzombies has already been working on fixing his map as he mentioned, mappers optimize your maps and don't slap T4M badge on it. :P
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: XEcW22 on January 08, 2016, 04:18:38 am
nice map man, fun to play :D
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: CODCZ115 on January 08, 2016, 06:20:11 am
Just checking, but this map is a ode to "BlackJackJohnny", but on YouTube, one of the persons you are subbed to is 'BlackJackJonnyy', is that the same person? If so, did you spell his name wrong on your map? Just trying to help you out, in case this was a mistake, and you might want to correct it. Again, great, challenging map. I'm enjoying it.
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: Studly on January 08, 2016, 07:28:17 am
I Enjoyed playing this Map, The Zombag's were bloody Mad ...Well Done. :D
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: ped078 on January 08, 2016, 07:22:11 pm
Did you play solo? I am a big coop player and it is significantly more fun with friends. In coop the survive rounds can only be activated when all players are by the door. Hitmanvere said the same thing as you when he beta tested. Survive rounds and camping are a style of playing that some people dont like. No hard feelings ;)
Thanks for taking it "on the chin" and not coming out with the usual "if you you dont like it...DONT PLAY IT!!1!" immature drivel that a lot of the high & might mappers come out with.
But yes I can see how it would be a lot easier, and more fun playing co-op , however, I prefer to play with myself.
That didn't come out quite the way I...
NVM...you know what I mean. :D
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: CODCZ115 on January 08, 2016, 10:18:02 pm
It is hard to put in literal days of work into a map and then have people bash it, which is why mappers have this response. I have learned that the people who actually do enjoy your map never comment anyway. I know there is a decent amount of people who came across this map and actually had a great time, plus my friends enjoyed it with me so it was worth it! Double Post Merge: January 08, 2016, 09:56:47 pmMind = Blown. I never caught that extra y lol
Yeah I hear ya :) .
I keep checking co-op to see if anyone else is playing :D
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: Letrix on January 11, 2016, 07:00:17 pm
Good job.It was difficult to finish but I did. Very good. I hope the next.
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: NoNamedNInja on January 12, 2016, 11:20:56 pm
So me and my friend cant play the map :/ He is the host and he just gets a black screen every time and I just get stuck at the loading screen. The game doesnt freeze because we can both leave the lobby just by pressing esc. Help anyone?
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: e0894ed4 on January 13, 2016, 01:14:33 pm
thank you for Mega downloading now
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: greeniezk5 on January 14, 2016, 04:48:18 pm
I knew this would be an issue for some, and I actually thought about releasing a non-fx version on the map. If anyone thinks this is a good idea, I will add a second download link when v2 is released. Should be within a week or 2
has nothing to do with the FX, more likely because of bad or non existant portalling
"if" you had "too many fx" - what you would actually see is "some vanishing and reappearing" and things like the muzzle flash on your gun may / may not appear etc
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: Harry Bo21 on January 14, 2016, 10:25:19 pm
It is not likely, it is definitely because of non existent portalling :-[. More to do for v2 haha. Also it is good to see your perks available on an alternate site ;)
they should be everywhere lol
ZM UGX Afterlifemodding CFG
btw portalling is "very" tough, I myself have actually never got around to i, or suceeded at it. Lots of videos about it tho
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: Undeadmetal on January 14, 2016, 10:30:48 pm
I'm getting ready to play I don't think I have t4m and the map started up just fine.... I do have that file from lavander town though :P
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: Harry Bo21 on January 14, 2016, 11:18:26 pm
Spoiler: click to open...
lol exnay of the C to the FG nay
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Edit: Why no box or buildables there yet? Nice Mark II btw
They will be, its a real pain getting all this stuff together lol
plus this month all ive done is port Origins guns. gonna release a Origins pack ( includes all guns, with claymores, semtex etc, no staffs, before anyone asks lol )
Just finished doing the clamores for that yesterday, which was the last i needed to do. Just need to go through checking em all again now. Finally got the stupid war machine to work too
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: arceus on January 15, 2016, 12:00:46 am
dang it i got exited until i red this ;-;, ive been wanting the ports but no one to do it XD
Ive seen numerous people "claim" to have them done already ( lies... )
the only one who has is pieman, last i checked he was working on a "new version" of them, but dont think they were ever completed
the annoying thing is you cant really port the original, due to differences between WAW and BO2 weapon files. So realistically need to change a lot, or at least do a number of things "differently" - in which case you might as well just rewrite it from scratch
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: isrevivingyou on January 15, 2016, 12:59:00 am
nice work
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: Harry Bo21 on January 15, 2016, 01:18:53 am
Maybe I should try to get some of the others that dont require scripting to compliment your pack. I wouldn't mind sending the converted ones to you if you wanted to include them in your pack as well. You have high standards though, so Idk if you'd like my lazy sounds. I have been using a single reload sound for all assault rifles and then a reload sound for smgs and so on. Let me know if you are interested in my help.
When v2 comes out check out my weapons and see if you would like them included in your pack
With the new lemon, note tracks are exported too, and directly to xanim. So doing sounds now is extremely easy
plus 90% in BO2 were shared, so odds are what youve done is not only "correct" but also "memory efficiant" ;)
eg, nearly all assault rifles use the reload sounds here
wpn/assault/reload/
any that dont, have a folder named after them
wpn/assault/galil/
for example
i can pop yours in a FF with em if you wanted, its up to you, ill prob be a while yet anyway double checking everything
Your right, I am picky lol. I already had these done, but with the new lemon, went through reporting the models to make sure they were spot o - with the exact right notetracks, overriding the camos to use the default camo, without touching the model ( the way you - should - do it ) and duplicating the stats "exactly" by looking at the BO2 files. I suck at sounds too however lol
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: HitmanVere on January 15, 2016, 11:03:35 am
whats it called ( the model ) coz i dont see it in my lime either?
nevermind...
what a name....
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You can only get it from the box on Origins, and it also doesnt feel as good as the MOTD version. Think they should have just made it a 1 map weapon
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: Harry Bo21 on January 15, 2016, 08:15:07 pm
im still hurt, its like the gun avoided me
I put in some "solid" time on that map, and put like 100,000 in the box sometimes to get the mkII - seriously never had it lol
Damn you tommy gun... We have a score to settle
Title: Love this map
Post by: RobbieJJ1 on January 22, 2016, 08:37:12 am
This map is brilliant. Very tough when I get to the 7 round door but been close enough to feel its achievable. PHD would be good since ray gun splash damage is a nightmare in the '7 round' room. To me, this map is up there as a top 5 or maybe 10.
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: FinalKill9175 on April 11, 2016, 08:41:46 pm
Don't use CFG weapons then. :please: Port 'em yourself.
Tru. And also the cfg weapons can be pretty far off from how they actually are. The only good onesnare rorkes and titos ports. I have always ported weapons myself but i have used a few of rorkes ports
Title: Re: Ode to BlackJackJohnny v1.0
Post by: Scobalula on April 11, 2016, 09:10:49 pm