you wouldn't really be making profit anyway because you still have to pay for the bills in some way lolThat's exactly my point, that I've spent 3 times as much money as we've received in donations - that's loss, not profit. Plus the fact that the donations slowed way down after Comosea was released, which means that was pretty much the end of the reimbursement. I don't care about spending the money and not getting anything back - that's not the problem.
That's exactly my point, that I've spent 3 times as much money as we've received in donations - that's loss, not profit. Plus the fact that the donations slowed way down after Comosea was released, which means that was pretty much the end of the reimbursement. I don't care about spending the money and not getting anything back - that's not the problem.jewinaor? this is how you know that zm is full of 3rd graders
The problem is that despite the fact that I spend the money without expecting anything in return, I've earned the name "fat jewinaor" on ZM and I'm constantly accused of having defrauded the whole community of their money. I even had someone ask for a refund on a $5 donation they made in September- are you seriously hurting that bad for your $5? You're really that disappointed/disgusted with something that you don't think we're worth $5? That hurts, man.
Thank you everyone for your understanding and support thus far.
jewinaor? this is how you know that zm is full of 3rd gradersYes, for a while ( don't know if its still activated) if you typed "trem" or "treminaor" into the zm chat, dave made it so that the message replaced those words wtih "fat jewinaor". He also had "UGX" replaced with "noobs".
jewinaor? this is how you know that zm is full of 3rd graderswhile I can agree it's rude, the FAG clan thing wasn't very nice either. again, fire on both ends.
eh, you should probably say the real reason why esso wanted his 5 bucks back... because you and W1NG3D made new accounts with nothing but balls, dicks and FAG written all over it, and purposely submitted ugly unplayable maps over to ZM just to troll. was this not immature? just asking.It wasn't ESSO. ESSO donated $10. It sounds like you're missing the fact that was a gigantic joke formulated between W1NG3D and myself on a friend-friend basis. had nothing to do with UGX, nothing to do with ZM, we just wanted to see how funny it would be to release those maps under ridiculous names and see how long it took for someone to question it. You can hardly compare a joke like this to the completely serious talk regarding UGX and myself that happens regularly on ZM, and they are no where near the same level. I've yet to see anyone but ESSO who was at all offended by this matter, and ESSO has no reason to be offended other than his own attitude about the community and what his expectations are for a map.
and purposely submitted ugly unplayable maps over to ZM just to troll. was this not immature? just asking.Both are completely playable and fun. You should try them - I did a coop match with a few people yesterday on ballbags_2 and had a blast. Trolling and Internet are practically hand in hand, so no I would not say it's immature. I know a lot of people had a good laugh, including NGTZ, and that should be worth something. The NGTZ video of ballbags_1 toilet of DOOM has nearly 40,000 views as of now, so I don't think there are a lot of people who feel the same way as you do.
to be honest, there are problems on both ends. there are people on zm who do talk bad about ugx, but people here are not at all any better.I don't post here regularly calling Darkflame a jew or insulting any other staff of ZM, so I hardly believe this is true.
what I also find funny, is that during this whole zm vs. ugx bullshit going on, the people who are usually talking bs are those who aren't even important to the situation or even know what really went on, like nickst, geh, jwofle, nukem... mostly just random and/or barely active members.While they still have a right to care and be involved I have also made the point that I'm tired of hearing shit from people like nukem or ESSO or joshybfps who have no relation to the situation or events whatsoever.
eh, you should probably say the real reason why esso wanted his 5 bucks back... because you and W1NG3D made new accounts with nothing but balls, dicks and FAG written all over it, and purposely submitted ugly unplayable maps over to ZM just to troll. was this not immature? just asking.um no? :P
to be honest, there are problems on both ends. there are people on zm who do talk bad about ugx, but people here are not at all any better. what I also find funny, is that during this whole zm vs. ugx bullshit going on, the people who are usually talking bs are those who aren't even important to the situation or even know what really went on, like nickst, geh, jwofle, nukem... mostly just random and/or barely active members.
while I can agree it's rude, the FAG clan thing wasn't very nice either. again, fire on both ends.
btw aren't you like 12 or something... you nearly just got out of 3rd grade.
Tell me, how did one person get the Comosea BETA? Do I need to remind you why you changed your donation rules?We changed it to avoid legal trouble, not moral trouble. Nothing was morally wrong with the beta donations - if a person did not donate, they got the map free a few months later just like everyone else.
You shouldn't have to justify yourself like this man....you guys have done some fantastic stuff.This means a lot, thank you very much.
And ya, saw your comment about that Ballbags map....it was funny as hell! Not every single map has to be huge with new weapons and Easter Eggs....I've had great fun with plenty of smaller maps.I could tell from the video that you were having the right reaction - I just wish that this is what everyone else's reaction was as well. If you want another funny video for your channel, download ballbags_2 from this link and give it a play ;)
I just hope all this stuff doesn't get you down.That happened a long time ago, too late now unfortunately. I'll trudge through it, though.
As someone who also has to handle hate on a daily basis on YouTube, you won't be able to appease everyone. Just keep doing your thing and what you love to do and do it respectfully. THAT is all that matters!I really appreciate the advice, and it's nice to hear from someone who knows how it feels firsthand.
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